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I know there is other ways in getting these games (piracy) but i really don't want to do that because i want to support the devs who makes the games. But anyways thanks for your help

Unfortunately, G2A (and I assume Kinguin to some extent, but G2A has caught a lot more flak) might actually be worse than piracy. A few indie devs have said that they'd rather you torrent their game and they'd seed it themselves than have you buy it from G2A. The TL;DR is that the G2A marketplace has about no restrictions on who can sell, and sellers often use stolen credit cards to buy keys. They sell the keys for cheap, they get money, the card gets charged back, and the chargeback fee often lands on the developer. The worst part is that any attempt to block keys obtained this way from being activated usually ends with a huge backlash. Ubisoft tried it, and for once I actually kinda agree with what they did, but there was a massive backlash.

Other options? GMG is a bit better, but they are somewhat shady. Their keys are usually pretty cheap because sometimes they resell keys purchased in cheaper regions. That's a grey area, but since it isn't literally taking money from the devs, it's a site I'm much more willing to defend. I think they also get bulk discounts on keys...? And of course, Steam sales are a thing. thumb.gif
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Unfortunately, G2A (and I assume Kinguin to some extent, but G2A has caught a lot more flak) might actually be worse than piracy. A few indie devs have said that they'd rather you torrent their game and they'd seed it themselves than have you buy it from G2A. The TL;DR is that the G2A marketplace has about no restrictions on who can sell, and sellers often use stolen credit cards to buy keys. They sell the keys for cheap, they get money, the card gets charged back, and the chargeback fee often lands on the developer. The worst part is that any attempt to block keys obtained this way from being activated usually ends with a huge backlash. Ubisoft tried it, and for once I actually kinda agree with what they did, but there was a massive backlash.

Other options? GMG is a bit better, but they are somewhat shady. Their keys are usually pretty cheap because sometimes they resell keys purchased in cheaper regions. That's a grey area, but since it isn't literally taking money from the devs, it's a site I'm much more willing to defend. I think they also get bulk discounts on keys...? And of course, Steam sales are a thing. thumb.gif

How did cc chargeback land on the developer??? That sound like serious counter sue worthy banking syatem flaw.
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Originally Posted by Nick the Slick View Post

No he's not asking for PlayStation games lol. He thought Humble Bundle was for PlayStation games because the current bundle is the PlayStation bundle.

ohh, okay I get it now.
post #14 of 22
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Originally Posted by CynicalUnicorn View Post

Unfortunately, G2A (and I assume Kinguin to some extent, but G2A has caught a lot more flak) might actually be worse than piracy. A few indie devs have said that they'd rather you torrent their game and they'd seed it themselves than have you buy it from G2A. The TL;DR is that the G2A marketplace has about no restrictions on who can sell, and sellers often use stolen credit cards to buy keys. They sell the keys for cheap, they get money, the card gets charged back, and the chargeback fee often lands on the developer. The worst part is that any attempt to block keys obtained this way from being activated usually ends with a huge backlash. Ubisoft tried it, and for once I actually kinda agree with what they did, but there was a massive backlash.

Other options? GMG is a bit better, but they are somewhat shady. Their keys are usually pretty cheap because sometimes they resell keys purchased in cheaper regions. That's a grey area, but since it isn't literally taking money from the devs, it's a site I'm much more willing to defend. I think they also get bulk discounts on keys...? And of course, Steam sales are a thing. thumb.gif

In case anyone is up for further reading articles like these detail the situation pretty well.

It's one of the few advantages living in HK has though - our physical copy games (always comes with Steam codes) tend to be competitive or less than G2A/King/GMG/etc even though they're legit. Quite happy to have picked up the latest Deus Ex for $35 USD equivalent with all the pre-order goodies.
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Guys is G2A legit? Planning to pre order FIFA 17 from there.
I never ordered from G2A before.
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The keys are legit but how the keys were procured is not.
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Unfortunately, G2A (and I assume Kinguin to some extent, but G2A has caught a lot more flak) might actually be worse than piracy. A few indie devs have said that they'd rather you torrent their game and they'd seed it themselves than have you buy it from G2A. The TL;DR is that the G2A marketplace has about no restrictions on who can sell, and sellers often use stolen credit cards to buy keys. They sell the keys for cheap, they get money, the card gets charged back, and the chargeback fee often lands on the developer. The worst part is that any attempt to block keys obtained this way from being activated usually ends with a huge backlash. Ubisoft tried it, and for once I actually kinda agree with what they did, but there was a massive backlash.

Other options? GMG is a bit better, but they are somewhat shady. Their keys are usually pretty cheap because sometimes they resell keys purchased in cheaper regions. That's a grey area, but since it isn't literally taking money from the devs, it's a site I'm much more willing to defend. I think they also get bulk discounts on keys...? And of course, Steam sales are a thing. thumb.gif

Well I always said I'd never buy from devs who list their games on Steam, Origin or UPlay, who use extra layers of DRM like Denuvo and who nickel and dime you with pay to win single player game shops.

Deus Ex Mankind Divided had all these things going against it on top of being a blatant console port, poorly optimized, replete with bugs and crashes and a short 30 hour campaign. Let's not forget the fiasco their pre-order schemes caused not too long ago.

I've never purchased any of my games online. I always got the boxed game, however that does not guarantee the full game on disk anymore. When I say I never, I did purchase Dragon Age Inquisition from Origin since I wanted to continue the saga from Dragon Age Origins, but that was a mistake. The game was no longer a Dragon Age game. I paid full price and was only disappointed in the end. I'm tired of doing that.

So again since I played the first Deus Ex and wanted to continue the adventure, I decided to order the game from CD Keys. I knew that by doing that the publisher and the devs would not get much of my money. Their practices have to cease or they will cease to exist. Steam would also most likely receive nothing in this case.

I reward good game devs like CDProject Red by ordering from GOG directly.

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/53634/cd-projekt-red-now-worth-over-1-billion/index.html
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Unfortunately, G2A (and I assume Kinguin to some extent, but G2A has caught a lot more flak) might actually be worse than piracy. A few indie devs have said that they'd rather you torrent their game and they'd seed it themselves than have you buy it from G2A. The TL;DR is that the G2A marketplace has about no restrictions on who can sell, and sellers often use stolen credit cards to buy keys. They sell the keys for cheap, they get money, the card gets charged back, and the chargeback fee often lands on the developer. The worst part is that any attempt to block keys obtained this way from being activated usually ends with a huge backlash. Ubisoft tried it, and for once I actually kinda agree with what they did, but there was a massive backlash.

Other options? GMG is a bit better, but they are somewhat shady. Their keys are usually pretty cheap because sometimes they resell keys purchased in cheaper regions. That's a grey area, but since it isn't literally taking money from the devs, it's a site I'm much more willing to defend. I think they also get bulk discounts on keys...? And of course, Steam sales are a thing. thumb.gif

Oh wow, I always thought these sights were suspicious and probably illegal, but I didn't think of this possibility.

I bought Borderlands 2 for like $25. I didn't have any problem, but the extra charge they suggest to "protect your order" really made me think something was going to go wrong. I was scared when I pressed the buy button... So scared I was thinking "I'm never buying Steam games like this." I just didn't have that warm, happy feeling I normally get when I buy a new game.
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See reviews and if you don't think it's worth the full AAA price, wait till it hits the bargain bin.
 
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See reviews and if you don't think it's worth the full AAA price, wait till it hits the bargain bin.

Reviews aren't reliable these days, there is corruption in everything.
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