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Hello!

I'd like to know if there's any point for me buying CLC water cooler. My machine:

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4,0 GHz (Devils Canyon)
Tower: Cooler Master Force 500 Midi-Tower
Air cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock 3 (BK018)
Motherboard: ASUS Z97-K, Intel Z97 Mainboard - S1150
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro Series Red DDR3-1600, CL9 - 8GB Kit
Graphics Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 Superclocked ACX 2.0, 4096 MB DDR5

I can overclock the chip to 4.5GHz and it's stable but the temps are really high, max 82°C on full load. I can go even to 4.7GHz but I'm playing with fire, 87°C on full load. My current air cooler is supposed to be pretty good but my tower is mediocre. What kind of water cooler would I be able to install and is it worth it - meaning can I than go to 4.7GHz and not go over 80°C? How much better temps can I expect going from air to water? Any answer would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
post #2 of 9
If you decide you need more cooling, I would recommend getting a better air cooler rather than a CLC watercooler. You'll end up spending less money and it'll make less noise than a water cooler with similar cooling performance. I would only recommend water If you care about how it looks in your case. Check out some of Noctua's products if you don't care what they look like.

Can someone else comment on his temps? I thought temps in the 80's is okay but I don't have much experience.
post #3 of 9
If you can afford it, I'd absolutely get one of those preconfigured EK watercooling kits. Great kits that get noobies into watercooling. Other closed loop setups offer no real "water cooling" experience. The EK kit will give you some more hands on and really give you the best performance...... and of course it's pretty hard to screw up..

But yeah you're roasting your CPU man... 87c is terrible... get some water on that thing... seems like you might benefit from a few fans and reworking your cases airflow as well.
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post #4 of 9
Heya! Nice build, excited to see how it turns out. But jeeze, 87C? devil.gif

If you go this post, your questions will be answered thumb.gif

http://www.overclock.net/t/134076/why-water-cool

Simply put, a glass of hot water will feel hotter on the outside faster than a glass of hot air - the molecular density of water is 784 times greater than air at sea level in a given volume. This means you get way more cooling for any volume of water passing over metal than any volume of air.

Plus, if you look at a heatsink that uses only fans, the point at which the cooling occurs is quite far from the actual point of heat. On a cooling block, water runs right over top of your CPU, keeping it nice and frosty.
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post #5 of 9
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Originally Posted by FatalProximity View Post

If you decide you need more cooling, I would recommend getting a better air cooler rather than a CLC watercooler. You'll end up spending less money and it'll make less noise than a water cooler with similar cooling performance. I would only recommend water If you care about how it looks in your case. Check out some of Noctua's products if you don't care what they look like.

But I can't find many more expensive air coolers than my current one and mine is supposed to be quite good. It's not the best but can a couple of $€ more really make a noticeable difference? That's why I thought of water coolers. I can't care less how it looks in the case I'm just looking for a cooler that can do a better job. Noctua coolers look fierce but the most expensive one I can find in my store is like 10$ more expensive than my current one. I'm not sure it can do much better job. Maybe I'm wrong.

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Originally Posted by Nilareon View Post

If you can afford it, I'd absolutely get one of those preconfigured EK watercooling kits. Great kits that get noobies into watercooling. Other closed loop setups offer no real "water cooling" experience. The EK kit will give you some more hands on and really give you the best performance...... and of course it's pretty hard to screw up..

Thanks, but I don't intent do install it myself. I'd rather bring the machine to a computer shop and let the professionals do it since I don't have any experiences with this.
So, for example this: http://www.corsair.com/en/hydro-series-h110i-gt-280mm-extreme-performance-liquid-cpu-cooler even though it's twice the price of my current air cooler won't do much better job than air?

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Originally Posted by DangGucci View Post

Heya! Nice build, excited to see how it turns out. But jeeze, 87C? devil.gif

If you go this post, your questions will be answered thumb.gif

Thanks for the advice!
post #6 of 9
My appologies, I did underestimate the quality of your current cooler. You're right, Noctua doesn't offer anything that is significantly better. After looking at a couple benchmark charts, I don't think you can expect more than a 2-5 degrees difference with that corsair h110i cooler you posted above. I have a feeling that majority of your cooling issues lie in the cooling configuration of your case fans. does your case have a decent amount of airflow and a way to vent out the hot air? What are the ambient temps of your room?
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Originally Posted by FatalProximity View Post

My appologies, I did underestimate the quality of your current cooler. You're right, Noctua doesn't offer anything that is significantly better. After looking at a couple benchmark charts, I don't think you can expect more than a 2-5 degrees difference with that corsair h110i cooler you posted above. I have a feeling that majority of your cooling issues lie in the cooling configuration of your case fans. does your case have a decent amount of airflow and a way to vent out the hot air? What are the ambient temps of your room?

Ambient temperatures are around 25°C and my case is open right now (it does have a big vent at the back though).
post #8 of 9
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Out of curiosity.. if the ambient temperature is 5°C lower does this mean (in general) that the max temps will be also around 5°C lower?
post #9 of 9
Yes, exactly. You'll see around 5°C lower temperature readings if your room is 5°C colder.
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