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There is an already known floating point bug when doing FFTs discovered by GIMPS on Skylake processors. The last I heard, the reason is unknown. I think @PhillyB and I have stumbled on a similar issue for Skylake and Broadwell when using Floating point variables, but this is a more generalized arithmetic in our benchmark. Intel announced that it should not affect less complex algorithms - but now that may not be the case.

Now before I go crying wolf, I need both AMD & Intel users to test so I can submit a complete picture to both Microsoft and Intel.

Latest Version of our benchmark:
http://www.bytemedev.com/BishopPublish/Bishop/publish.htm

Excuse the mess - it's not fully integrated with HWBOT

Test Setup:


If you do not have an issue you will get a score like so:


If your floating points are not working correctly, the application will freeze in an endless loop at this stage:


I have traced the issue all the way down to the JIT layer - Microsoft will need more data and some time to eliminate .NET frameworks JIT as the variable.

Now, as far as I know, the Skylake floating point bug maybe the same thing, but it is was "isolated" to just that family - that might be true, and this is something else.

If You Get The Freeze - Post The Following
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Users Who Have Found Issues
RagingCain - i7 4790K @ stock & overclock.
PhillyB - i7 6700K @ overclock
drmrlordx - AMD A10-7870K @ 4.2GHz @ 1.28v @ 36c

Users Who Don't Have Issues
ManofGod1000 - AMD FX 8350
Edited by RagingCain - 8/29/16 at 1:35pm
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Count me in, I can run it on a Steamroller (A10-7870k). I promise not to gripe about your scoring system . . . !

(since I already did that lulz)

Okay! I have the bug on my A10-7870k. Details:

A10-7870k
4.2 GHz static (no turbo)
1.28v actual (1.30v in UEFI)
CPU temp: 36C
Thermal Margin: 66

It is Prime/Linpack stable, but this application seizes up exactly as you indicated above. Mine stops at a a total time of 7403.977 ms but does not yield a score and keeps the CPU at 100% utilization.
Edited by drmrlordx - 8/29/16 at 1:13pm
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Well, I ran it on my work computer repeatedly which has an AMD FX 8350. No lock ups here. thumb.gif
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Count me in, I can run it on a Steamroller (A10-7870k). I promise not to gripe about your scoring system . . . !

(since I already did that lulz)

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Well, I ran it on my work computer repeatedly which has an AMD FX 8350. No lock ups here. thumb.gif

Thanks.
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Well no lock ups but tried several times and always after about 5 seconds it will get stuck in loop and just sit there showing no progress but does continue loading cpu.

I say no lock ups because I can move mouse and click to stop benchmark and all runs fine, don't need a reset to unlock anything.

CPU - Core i7 6700 @ 4.8GHz with temps hitting low 70's on this bench.

Edit: Matching some data my iteration number is same at 215 every instance. All other points are similar though not exact so seems to be a specific calculation causing it maybe.


Edited by rx7racer - 8/29/16 at 1:27pm
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Well no lock ups but tried several times and always after about 5 seconds it will get stuck in loop and just sit there showing no progress but does continue loading cpu.

I say no lock ups because I can move mouse and click to stop benchmark and all runs fine, don't need a reset to unlock anything.

CPU - Core i7 6700 @ 4.8GHz with temps hitting low 70's on this bench.

Edit: Matching some data my iteration number is same at 215 every instance. All other points are similar though not exact so seems to be a specific calculation causing it maybe.


That's the freeze. It just so happens that the programmer chose to do his darnedest not to BSOD your computer at 100% cpu utilization.
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Count me in, I can run it on a Steamroller (A10-7870k). I promise not to gripe about your scoring system . . . !

(since I already did that lulz)

Okay! I have the bug on my A10-7870k. Details:

A10-7870k
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1.28v actual (1.30v in UEFI)
CPU temp: 36C
Thermal Margin: 66

It is Prime/Linpack stable, but this application seizes up exactly as you indicated above. Mine stops at a a total time of 7403.977 ms but does not yield a score and keeps the CPU at 100% utilization.
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Well, I ran it on my work computer repeatedly which has an AMD FX 8350. No lock ups here. thumb.gif

Are you on Windows 10 x64?
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Just for curiosity I ran per core test. With only 1 core or logical core selected it runs with no errors. As soon as more than one core or logical cores are selected it freeze loops on iteration 215.

Found that a bit interesting myself for some reason.
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Are you on Windows 10 x64?

Yes.
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Well, we are all on Windows 10 so far.
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