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I have a GA-Z170XP-SLi-CF paired with an i5-6600K (delidded). I'm wondering if I'm leaving MHz on the table with my 6600K and RAM by using this motherboard. Not to say its bad but I think its midrange? Any thoughts opinions on changing out this board for another? I know I would end up losing money in the end by selling this board and buying another but I'm ok with that if I can achieve better clocks.
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I have a GA-Z170XP-SLi-CF paired with an i5-6600K (delidded). I'm wondering if I'm leaving MHz on the table with my 6600K and RAM by using this motherboard. Not to say its bad but I think its midrange? Any thoughts opinions on changing out this board for another? I know I would end up losing money in the end by selling this board and buying another but I'm ok with that if I can achieve better clocks.

What are you looking at spending? I think a better Gigabyte or Asus motherboard would do the trick. What makes you think that this is not such a great board?
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I've got that board in my HTPC. It doesn't seem to be structurally much different at all from the Z170X Gaming 7 I was using with my 6700k. TT had [good results with it]. They specifiy that they had strong active cooling on the VRM which your case should more than allow for. I'm not sure that stepping up to another board would be the deciding factor here, save something crazy [like this guy.]

     
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I do not believe there is active cooling on this motherboard, only passive. I did decide to point an 80mm fan at the VRM area though as I believe they were causing the throttling during p95 testing (not that this is a huge deal anyways).

I emailed G.Skill support since they are my preferred memory vendor and they told me this board isn't suited for the higher speed memory: "The Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI motherboard is unable to support something as high as 3400MHz or 3600MHz for the capacity you need." I told them I need a kit of 2x8GB modules. I have a 2800MHz kit which overclocks somewhat poorly on my board so I am inclined to believe they are correct. The TT memory overclocking looks like they only tried to achieve XMP for 2666MHz. Idealy, I want to be at 3400MHz at least or higher.

I would resell my GA-Z170XP-SLi-CF to recoup some money. Seems like I'm looking at $90-$100 shipped best case. I prefer to spend $150 or less but would consider all the way up to $200 if it meant I was truly getting a better overclocking oriented board.
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I do not believe there is active cooling on this motherboard, only passive. I did decide to point an 80mm fan at the VRM area though as I believe they were causing the throttling during p95 testing (not that this is a huge deal anyways).

I emailed G.Skill support since they are my preferred memory vendor and they told me this board isn't suited for the higher speed memory: "The Gigabyte GA-Z170XP-SLI motherboard is unable to support something as high as 3400MHz or 3600MHz for the capacity you need." I told them I need a kit of 2x8GB modules. I have a 2800MHz kit which overclocks somewhat poorly on my board so I am inclined to believe they are correct. The TT memory overclocking looks like they only tried to achieve XMP for 2666MHz. Idealy, I want to be at 3400MHz at least or higher.

I would resell my GA-Z170XP-SLi-CF to recoup some money. Seems like I'm looking at $90-$100 shipped best case. I prefer to spend $150 or less but would consider all the way up to $200 if it meant I was truly getting a better overclocking oriented board.

 

I should have specified more clearly, the bolded bit is exactly what I'd meant by actively cooling the board. If you're already doing so, that's one variable checked off. From what I saw with RAM they were running 3600MHz but only for 8GB. If it can't handle the 16GB at that speed then that's as good a reason as any to try another board. The only issue I see is that in the $150 price range there's nothing substantially better so you'll likely have to look closer at that $200 point. The Maximus VIII Hero and the Z170X UD5 TH get high marks.

 

I can highly recommend the Z170X Gaming 7 at/near your price goal. I ran 16GB of 3000MHz on that board and I know [H] ran it at 3600MHz in their review. Once it got its initial BIOS update it was a fantastic board and I was able to hit 4.6GHz on a 6700k with minimal effort - I could've easily pushed further but wasn't planning on keeping the system for more than a few months so I kept voltage light.

     
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I do not recommend that you buy a new motherboard until the Z270 boards come out. Kaby Lake desktop is believed to be out in January 2017, so the motherboards should arrive around December 2016 - January 2017. The only people who should are those who "must" due to hardware failure or some immediate use for a new system.

The reason why is because they will be compatible with the 6600K/6700K, and plus the new Kaby Lake CPUs. They may also have some cool new features as well.

Finally, there is no assurance that the new board will give you what you are looking for - the silicon lottery on the CPU makes a bigger difference these days then board choice for CPU overclocking, although granted board choice can be very decisive for RAM overclocking.
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I guess I didn't realize that running 2x8GB modules in the mid 3GHz range was such a task. I definitely see this being beneficial for me though and am not sure waiting until December - January to pay price-gouging price for the bleeding edge is something I want to do. I am really shooting for faster memory speeds (but high CPU clocks are always a good thing). I barely get my 2800MHz kit stable at 2800MHz @ 15-15-15-35 which is XMP speed but at 1.4v vs the advertised 1.2v (with near max safe voltages).


There are seemingly many Gigabyte board models and TBH the naming conventions confuse / lead me in no direction. Is the G1 Gaming 7 better than the G1 Gaming Ultra for example? I'm open to other board brands as well.
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http://www.gigabyte.us/products/comparison/list.aspx?ck=2&pids=5808,5481,5479,5496

 

Those are the boards I'd look at in the Giga range with your allotted budget; I included the XP SLI as a reference point. The Gaming 7 has a niceties over the Ultra but they're both very similar in OC potential and support for higher-range memory. Basically, they're mostly similar in the 'gaming' range excepting the G1 but have a sliding scale of features. The OC potential is good from the Gaming 3 on up but 3 and 5 cost too much IMO when the 7 has better features for not that much more.

 

From other manufacturers, I'd look at MSI's Z170A Gaming M7 or the Asrock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming K6. Depending on the features you want the ASUS Z170-A is pretty good and should have an easier time with your RAM, but in every other respect is mostly a sidegrade.

     
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I am not the right person to be giving advice, but just as a bit more info... I just got an ASUS Z170-A, and have my 16GB of 3200MHz C16 Trident Z running at 3285Mhz C15, 1T, and 1.31v (opposed to its XMP spec of 1.5v) on it. I haven´t spent much time on it and I think my bclk of 102.65mhz might not be optimal!
Having said that, in your case I would either keep your board or go to something lika a Maximus VIII Hero. The Z170-A seems like a good board, but might not be an upgrade...
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http://www.gigabyte.us/products/comparison/list.aspx?ck=2&pids=5808,5481,5479,5496


From other manufacturers, I'd look at MSI's Z170A Gaming M7 or the Asrock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming K6. Depending on the features you want the ASUS Z170-A is pretty good and should have an easier time with your RAM, but in every other respect is mostly a sidegrade.

Yea, don't go to Gigabyte if your looking to overclock. Asus and Asrock are the picks. thumb.gif
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