Originally Posted by MicroCat
And you will be flagged again. We can only forgive mobile typos if they are amusing. That's the rule. I'm not making it up. Ok, I am, but that's not the point. The point is how/why are you mounting a 200mm fan on your mobile device?!
I modded my ipad, oc'd the a8 to 2.0ghz and added 128gb ram and a giant heatsink as well as a 12W LED strip around the edge. The 200mm fan helps it float above the ground so when I'm riding my hoverboard I'm basically from the future.
Originally Posted by doyll
It would appear you have skimmed, but not read what 8051 has been told.
lol, a little late but always on time!
It would appear that you do not understand what "clearly articulated" means...
My first post to 8051l does not say commercial vs consumer, but does explain how that specification are free airflow and stopped airflow, not functional use airflow ratings for our uses; post #29
ciarlatano in post #31
Graphs of how specifications do not show fan performance and explaining what consumer specifications are Post #32:
Great, so you guys mention fan testing methods without making a direct/implicit comparison to either proper/industrial fan testing methods (which is what 8051 is talking about) or without directly/implicitly comparing them to those reviews from thermalbench. I hope you understand why I do not think that counts as "clearly articulated."
As you have been told it was clarified repeatedly:
"Repeatedly" suggests it was clarified multiple times, when in fact it was only clarified once, and, again, in poor context.
You say "consumer fan performance varies dramatically from their specifications," 8051 says "so, industrial fan specifications don't." There is no competition in this argument (you are both correct about different things), or even any direct comparison to be made (no one implicitly compared consumer and industrial fan testing methods to illustrate the difference in accuracy). Sure, a few posts before various users referred to this difference, but, again, without directly/implicitly doing so, ie, not "clearly articulated."
As you know, this is a web forum where people enter conversations without reading entire threads, come to the forum with very differing levels of knowledge, including English, and find themselves in the middle of sometimes complicated conversations about fluid dynamics. All I'm saying is that you could edit better, as is clearly evidenced by the dozens of threads where people misread you that turn into trite arguments about nothing (see above). Fuses become short, people get angry, and we all lose out on a potentially great conversation comparing consumer fan testing methods to industrial fan testing methods out of some childish offense we have taken.
Again, I don't think I could've said it any better:
Originally Posted by claes @8051
, I imagine Doyll is talking about consumer PC fans, where manufacturer specifications rarely line up with measured performance. Obviously industrial fans built for enterprise use have higher standards for accuracy, but if you take most of the fans tested in the images above and compare measured CFM to specifications you'd find some significant difference.
See what I mean? I managed to pull together those hundreds of words and images that came from across multiple posts in to two coherent sentences that directly respond to the argument at hand. To be certain, I really could've been more clear, "CFM measured by thermalbench as shown in those graphs above when compared to the fan manufacturer's specifications," or similar.
I mean, really, at this point the argument has affirmed itself:
Edited by claes - 10/4/16 at 12:20pm
Originally Posted by claes
With all respect, no one clarified that consumer PC fan specifications are inaccurate in any clear articulation, merely that they exist (ciarlatano's post) and that they have been measured by an independent reviewer (Doyll's).
I mean no offense, but there's a sort of insiders impatience in these forums where we say things like "obviously" rather than offer a simple explanation, or , instead, a series of maxims that don't offer analogy with which to give those maxims context. It is often a discussion amongst us rather than for others, offering a conversation that lends itself well to the feeling of outsiders trolling, resulting in escalation and fits, like above, and particularly with people who don't speak English as a first language..