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Hello everyone,

I feel like my HD7950 is getting a bit too old and is dying (occasionally I've have a random line flash on my screen, which has been happening for quite a while now).
Before I start let me just say, I don't want Nvidia. I refuse to support Gameworks / proprietary software/hardware technologies and besides, they ask way to much money.
So no need to bring up any Nvidia GPUs.

Anyway, I'd prefer to spend around 200-300 euros. The GPU that comes closest is the RX 470 which ranges from 210 to 260 euros.
The 8GB models being 259 (MSI Gaming X) and 260 (Sapphire NITRO+).

I'd also been thinking about the rx 480, which is a bit more expensive starting at 245 for a reference 4GB model reaching up to 337, the R9 390X 8GB (358 incl. shipping delivery longer than 12 days or 377 next day delivery) and the r9 fury (354 incl. shipping and next day delivery)

Anyway, I guess what I'm wondering is should I get the 8GB models (I'll probably keep this GPU quite a while.


Taking into account prices and delivery times, my first choice is probably the r9 fury. However I'm a little worried about the 4GB HBM considering I'll probably be using this GPU for the next couple of years.

I don't feel like going multi GPU, I've had that before. Never had any problems but I just don't feel like it.

So, to sum it up:

Next GPU for 3 / 4 years. (ranked in preference)

1. R9 Fury - 4GB HBM - 354 euros (Sapphire NITRO model incl. backplate)
2. RX 480 - 8GB - 305 (unknown delivery) / 359 (next day delivery)
3. RX 470 - 8GB - 264 (within 3 days delivery expected) / 284 (next day delivery)
4. RX 470 - 4GB - 239 (within 3 days delivery expected) / 248 (next day delivery)
5. R9 390X - 8GB - 358 (12+ days delivery) / 377 euros

(390x price is ridiculous.)

What would you do?
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RX 480 isn't much of an upgrade, especially if you plan on keeping it for 3-4 years. Fury isn't a good option either with limited VRAM.

I'd say your choices are you wait for Vega or hop on the Nvidia train and grab a 1070.
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RX 480 isn't much of an upgrade, especially if you plan on keeping it for 3-4 years. Fury isn't a good option either with limited VRAM.

I'd say your choices are you wait for Vega or hop on the Nvidia train and grab a 1070.

Well, taking Guru3d as a baseline. My HD 7950 scores 24FPS in Hardline, the RX 480 score 45. That's what, a 87.5% increase?
In the Doom Vulkan benchmark the Fury scores exactly the same as a 1070. The only thing that "bothers" me is the 4GB VRAM. I think, however, that the increased bandwith will be a bit more forgiving than having 4GB DDR5.

The games I'll be playing are most likely Overwatch, Rainbow Six Siege and Battlefield 1 (which, to my knowledge, will support Vulkan).

I guess my options are a RX 480 8GB and upgrade to Vega, or get the R9 Fury and upgrade to Vega or suck it up 3 years with either GPU.

Also, I wanted to get a new GPU last year but decided to wait for Fury and was a bit let down. Decided to wait for Polaris and was hoping they'd release another, bit faster, GPU which didn't happen. I'm not really feeling like waiting yet again to buy something that's out of my price range. The latest leaks also mentioned Vega will be released 1h of 2017, so that's another 8/9 months most likely (june / juli release?)

The mid end RX 480 costs 300+ for the decent versions, my HD 7950 cost me 270 which was basically in the high end range back then. I can only imagine Vega costing 400+
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RX 480 isn't much of an upgrade, especially if you plan on keeping it for 3-4 years. Fury isn't a good option either with limited VRAM.

I'd say your choices are you wait for Vega or hop on the Nvidia train and grab a 1070.

Seriously, how do you come to the conclusion that the RX 480 is not much of an upgrade? Considering it is just as fast as an R9 290 and the the R9 290 is nearly twice as fast as a 7970, it would most definitely be an upgrade. Also, the R9 Fury would be no issue for the next couple of years at least and is at least 50% faster than an R9 290, especially at 4k.

OP, if you do purchase the R9 Fury, I think you will be happy with it. However, if you are just gaming at 1080p 60, I would say that a RX 480 would fit your requirements quite nicely.
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Seriously, how do you come to the conclusion that the RX 480 is not much of an upgrade? Considering it is just as fast as an R9 290 and the the R9 290 is nearly twice as fast as a 7970, it would most definitely be an upgrade. Also, the R9 Fury would be no issue for the next couple of years at least and is at least 50% faster than an R9 290, especially at 4k.

OP, if you do purchase the R9 Fury, I think you will be happy with it. However, if you are just gaming at 1080p 60, I would say that a RX 480 would fit your requirements quite nicely.

Well my goal is 1440p 120+ fps. I'll be turning down options until I reach my desired FPS. My HD7950 runs BF4 at 440p everything low around 120fps avg. so being able to turn some option up will be great. The problem is Rainbow Six Siege which just runs awful on my HD 7950 Have to run it at 1080p on low just to get 70-80 fps avg.

I am leaning towards the r9 fury though. Will probably order it later today, if I run into any problems the next few years, I'll deal with them then. thumb.gif Thanks mate.
Edited by Sleazybigfoot - 8/30/16 at 7:47am
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Out of your options I would say Fury for the price you can get it.

Honestly I hate the current gpu landscape myself. It's either over pay for inferior AMD performance or over pay for NV's performance lead.

I don't know why so many think it's a grand ol time in the gpu market, seen many better days than it is right now before.

No matter which way you go you will sacrifice something if you want to go with AMD. You'll either sacrifice vram or raw performance. Only 2 realistic options are RX 480 or Fury variant.
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Out of your options I would say Fury for the price you can get it.

Honestly I hate the current gpu landscape myself. It's either over pay for inferior AMD performance or over pay for NV's performance lead.

I don't know why so many think it's a grand ol time in the gpu market, seen many better days than it is right now before.

No matter which way you go you will sacrifice something if you want to go with AMD. You'll either sacrifice vram or raw performance. Only 2 realistic options are RX 480 or Fury variant.

Yeah you're absolutely right. I guess the upside is the rise of DX12 and hopefully Vulkan, considering the Fury is on par with a 1070 (going of the Guru3D Doom baseline)
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Seriously, how do you come to the conclusion that the RX 480 is not much of an upgrade? Considering it is just as fast as an R9 290 and the the R9 290 is nearly twice as fast as a 7970, it would most definitely be an upgrade. Also, the R9 Fury would be no issue for the next couple of years at least and is at least 50% faster than an R9 290, especially at 4k.

OP, if you do purchase the R9 Fury, I think you will be happy with it. However, if you are just gaming at 1080p 60, I would say that a RX 480 would fit your requirements quite nicely.

It's not much of an upgrade considering what his plans are, did you even read the OP? He wants a card that is going to last him for another 3-4 years and while the RX 480 is an upgrade in terms of GPU horsepower, I think if he plans on keeping a GPU for that long he needs to set his sights higher. Fury shouldn't even be considered considering 4GB of VRAM can already be an issue today, not to mention 3-4 years down the road. So realistically in the AMD camp his options are a 390X or a RX 480 with the current linup, but the 390X doesn't make much sense with the pricetags he listed.


One of the games OP mentions is Overwatch. From personal experience, a 290X cannot maintain a 60 FPS minimum on max settings 1440p(excluding AA) and cannot maintain 144 FPS minimum on 1080p. It's fine most of the time, but when things hit the fan, FPS dips are real.

I'd be waiting for Vega if you are super anti-NV, otherwise a 1070 is probably the best choice with the current market and having plans to keep a GPU for such an extended period.
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It's not much of an upgrade considering what his plans are, did you even read the OP? He wants a card that is going to last him for another 3-4 years and while the RX 480 is an upgrade in terms of GPU horsepower, I think if he plans on keeping a GPU for that long he needs to set his sights higher. Fury shouldn't even be considered considering 4GB of VRAM can already be an issue today, not to mention 3-4 years down the road. So realistically in the AMD camp his options are a 390X or a RX 480 with the current linup, but the 390X doesn't make much sense with the pricetags he listed.


One of the games OP mentions is Overwatch. From personal experience, a 290X cannot maintain a 60 FPS minimum on max settings 1440p(excluding AA) and cannot maintain 144 FPS minimum on 1080p. It's fine most of the time, but when things hit the fan, FPS dips are real.

I'd be waiting for Vega if you are super anti-NV, otherwise a 1070 is probably the best choice with the current market and having plans to keep a GPU for such an extended period.


It's not that I'm anti NVidia, it's just that I hate the ideas of proprietary software technologies, not to mention a 1070 (MSI gaming once again) will cost me 500 euros....

Might as well spring for the 390x.. which is 377 and I think even that is ridiculous.
I guess I'll just have to go Fury or RX 480 and then upgrade if necessary, but like I said. I'm not an eye candy guy, I mean if I can that's great if not I'll take fps over eye candy any day.

I guys the games I play mostly are Overwatch, Siege, GTA V and probably BF1.
GTA V being the only game where I'd like to turn some settings up.

I know 3-4 years is going to be a stretch without going Nvidia or Vulkan (I believe Doom isn't going to be the only Vulkan title where the Fury is on par with the 1070).
So if that means I'll have to upgrade in 2 years I guess I will have to.
Edited by Sleazybigfoot - 8/30/16 at 9:47am
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UPDATE

Ordered a Fury, I figure I might as well enjoy what the card can do at this moment and deal with problems later on. If the 4GB of ram will present a problem in a year or 2, I'll turn down the textures or whatever.

Thanks everybody thumb.gif
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