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The 40" JU7500 actually has 8.9ms response time according to tests from rtings.com. It's actually the fastest VA panel I could find. And on a TV set! It's still the best LCD TV for computer use. Not sure if this 40" Philips will be that fast.

If Philips didn't muck it up it should be at least as fast. The JU7500 is interesting tho.
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The 40" JU7500 actually has 8.9ms response time according to tests from rtings.com. It's actually the fastest VA panel I could find. And on a TV set! It's still the best LCD TV for computer use. Not sure if this 40" Philips will be that fast.

I ran TestUFO's ghosting tests on the JU7100 (flat panel version of JU7500) on every color setting they have. No horrible ghosting or noticeable overshoot. It performs like the fastest 60 Hz IPS monitors in motion clarity. It (along with the PCMonitors review of the S34E790C I had seen previously) opened my eyes even more to VA's potential to outperform IPS in virtually all areas relevant to gaming and TV/movies. At head-on viewing of course.
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Ya, virtually all LCD TV's are VA. IPS horrid blacks and contrast just don't cut it.
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I ran TestUFO's ghosting tests on the JU7100 (flat panel version of JU7500) on every color setting they have. No horrible ghosting or noticeable overshoot. It performs like the fastest 60 Hz IPS monitors in motion clarity. It (along with the PCMonitors review of the S34E790C I had seen previously) opened my eyes even more to VA's potential to outperform IPS in virtually all areas relevant to gaming and TV/movies. At head-on viewing of course.

Yeah I think VA has come a long way. I used to believe they all had problematic response times since the high refresh ones like the Eizo FG2421 and Acer Z35 did so I just assumed they all did. Then I went and checked out the Samsung S34E790C and Philips BDM4065 and saw that not all VA panels are like that and they really do have the potential to be the best gaming panels.
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Yeah I think VA has come a long way. I used to believe they all had problematic response times since the high refresh ones like the Eizo FG2421 and Acer Z35 did so I just assumed they all did. Then I went and checked out the Samsung S34E790C and Philips BDM4065 and saw that not all VA panels are like that and they really do have the potential to be the best gaming panels.

Best until OLED arrives in monitors, yeah.
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The 40" JU7500 actually has 8.9ms response time according to tests from rtings.com. It's actually the fastest VA panel I could find. And on a TV set! It's still the best LCD TV for computer use. Not sure if this 40" Philips will be that fast.

Ill have to check out that site - but read a site last nite that said that the 7500 could hit 22ms lag but without 4 4 4 chroma not sure what that means exactly for pc quality. It increases alot after that like 37 etc ... Ill check out that rtings site

ahh that was the same site that I read this "

1080p @ 60Hz Show Help : 21.1 ms
1080p With Interpolation Show Help : 130.2 ms
1080p @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode Show Help : 119.8 ms
1080p @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4 Show Help : 37.3 ms
The input lag of the Samsung JU7500 is a very low 21.1 ms when you turn on game mode. PC mode, which you need to use if you want full chroma 4:4:4, has 37.3 ms.
"

So whats that mean if you run above 1080p? For example on my 4k I run 1440 usually (fallout 4). And have run 4k with rebel galaxy. Whats full chroma 4 4 4 mean ingregards to pc useage?
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The 40" JU7500 actually has 8.9ms response time according to tests from rtings.com. It's actually the fastest VA panel I could find. And on a TV set! It's still the best LCD TV for computer use. Not sure if this 40" Philips will be that fast.
Considering the BDM4065UC was faster than 8.9 average, i don't see why this one won't be.

Unless Philips pulls an LG...
    
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Considering the BDM4065UC was faster than 8.9 average, i don't see why this one won't be.

Unless Philips pulls an LG...

Ah nice. I hadn't realized TFTCentral did a review. Too bad this new version is many months away. mad.gif
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Ill have to check out that site - but read a site last nite that said that the 7500 could hit 22ms lag but without 4 4 4 chroma not sure what that means exactly for pc quality. It increases alot after that like 37 etc ... Ill check out that rtings site

ahh that was the same site that I read this "

1080p @ 60Hz Show Help : 21.1 ms
1080p With Interpolation Show Help : 130.2 ms
1080p @ 60Hz Outside Game Mode Show Help : 119.8 ms
1080p @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4 Show Help : 37.3 ms
The input lag of the Samsung JU7500 is a very low 21.1 ms when you turn on game mode. PC mode, which you need to use if you want full chroma 4:4:4, has 37.3 ms.
"

So whats that mean if you run above 1080p? For example on my 4k I run 1440 usually (fallout 4). And have run 4k with rebel galaxy. Whats full chroma 4 4 4 mean ingregards to pc useage?

If you want chroma 4:4:4 which you do, input lag is 37.3 ms, which is the sole reason why it isn't a good PC gaming monitor. This has nothing to do with the 8.9 ms response time mind you.
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at 40" it's more of a TV than a monitor. if it was flat and had 3 or more HDMI inputs i'd possibly buy it to replace my TV.
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Lubuntu 13.04 x64 OS X 10.8.5 Dual 1600x1200 Dell m993s @ 70hz TX750 
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Haf 912 
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CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
i7-3920XM GTX980M G.SKILL Ripjaws 32GB Model F3-1866C10Q-32GRSL Samsung SSD 850 EVO mSATA 1TB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
WD Blue 5400 RPM 1TB ODD Conversion w/ White Label 2TB Empty / Free Bay Converted External USB 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
M14x R2 10 CFM CPU fan Liquid Metal Pro Windows 10 /w Telemetry Block  1080p 120Hz eDP 
MonitorKeyboardPowerMouse
Sony FW900 @ 2304 x 1440 @ 80hz Saitek Eclipse I Dell 330 Watt Brick Logitech G500s 
OtherOther
Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260 w/ BT iGPU disable / bypass 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
C2Q Q9550 ASUS P5E3 Deluxe Wifi-AP EVGA GTX 770 4GB Classified Kingston HyperX DDR3 KHX1600C9D3K2/8G 
RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
PNY 1333 55gb, 320Gb, 500GB, 1TB Corsair H80 Win 7 Ultimate 64bit 
OSOSMonitorPower
Lubuntu 13.04 x64 OS X 10.8.5 Dual 1600x1200 Dell m993s @ 70hz TX750 
Case
Haf 912 
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