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post #71 of 81
There's nothing wrong with using DDU,it is actually a quite handy program to have if you prefer clean install of drivers.

You think otherwise,and that's ok,but there's nothing inherently wrong with that program.

I do really think,you OP,TwoCables should relax and take a break from this forum time to time because the fact this thread is 14 pages long with multiple replies on your end is not good for you.
post #72 of 81
If DDU was really needed then why doesn't nvidia buy the program from the developer and work it into the driver package?
I have never seen nvidia say that DDU must be used, I have only seen them suggest it when a user on their forum has problems and is asking for help and nvidia doesn't know
how to correct their problem.
I also have seen on nvidia forums that only about 3 out of 10 users with problems corrected their problem by using DDU. The other 7 still had issues
which most likely is due to something else in their system be driver conflict or hardware issue/failure.
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post #73 of 81
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Originally Posted by jlhawn View Post

If DDU was really needed then why doesn't nvidia buy the program from the developer and work it into the driver package?
I have never seen nvidia say that DDU must be used, I have only seen them suggest it when a user on their forum has problems and is asking for help and nvidia doesn't know
how to correct their problem.
I also have seen on nvidia forums that only about 3 out of 10 users with problems corrected their problem by using DDU. The other 7 still had issues
which most likely is due to something else in their system be driver conflict or hardware issue/failure.

Nvidia is in denial of any and all problems associated with their hardware or software. If something is wrong, it has to be something wrong the User did.

AMD, on the other hand, did release their own version of DDU, which is helpful in some scenarios.
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post #74 of 81
I have had sli 275's, 480's, 670's, and 970's. Throughout these gpus I also used amd and Intel cpus.
Never once have I used a driver cleaner utility, and I haven't had an issue with video drivers from installing drivers the express method that nvidia recommends.
Shoot, one afternoon I must've gone back and forth through ten different nvidia drivers to see which one have the best performance, without ever removing drivers, and still no issues.
I can confirm what @TwoCables is saying, at least as far as nvidia is concerned. Letting the nvidia installer do its own thing when going to a newer driver, or reverting back to an older one, will not cause problems.
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post #75 of 81
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Nvidia is in denial of any and all problems associated with their hardware or software. If something is wrong, it has to be something wrong the User did.

AMD, on the other hand, did release their own version of DDU, which is helpful in some scenarios.

what about all the years of drivers being installed without DDU or any other driver removal program?
wasn't needed then and isn't needed now.
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post #76 of 81
I for one have never had an issue from mobile gpus AMD and Nvidia or the desktop variants of these cards using the uninstaller that comes with them. I'm with @TwoCables
Some of the childish bs that's gone in this thread is astonishing . Given his reps. How long he has been around and some of the info I have learned from him is priceless. But then again I deal with hardware all day every day. Certified to handle said hardware by many Companies. And for one can tell you I have seen driver cleaning utilities destroy stuff.
But hey I'm just a lowly 31 year old IT guy who has done this stuff for 10 years now lol
Edited by kfxsti - 8/31/16 at 10:01am
post #77 of 81
Quote:
Originally Posted by jlhawn View Post

what about all the years of drivers being installed without DDU or any other driver removal program?
wasn't needed then and isn't needed now.

I've had to reinstall Windows at times. Some people get lucky and never have issues. Others find ways to solve their issues.
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post #78 of 81
I think it's a poor choice to lump all of these programs together. I personally experienced problems using driversweeper years ago but I have used DDU since it released at least fifty times on various versions of windows and on both AMD and Nvidia systems without a single problem.
post #79 of 81
The only time I use DDU is when switching graphics cards vendors in the PC... other than that, I've used the Nvidia and AMD/ATI built in driver installers/updates with no issues for the past 10 years.
Edited by Peter Nixeus - 8/31/16 at 10:18am
 
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I am not saying you'd have problems if you used DDU or other driver cleaners. I'm just saying that for a simple upgrade, you very likely don't need to use it and you could just do a simple in-place upgrade without any problems. Save yourself some time. No reboots, no reconfiguring driver settings, no hassle. Just upgrade and be done.

 

Sure, if you are trying to get rid of a problematic driver, then yes, you need some kind of a driver cleaner for the best results. Be sure to uninstall first in the Programs and Features control panel though.


Edited by TwoCables - 8/31/16 at 10:20am
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