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Dream Machines DM1 Pro S Gaming Mouse Review

Disclaimer: The OCN labs program provided me with a review sample of the Dream Machines DM1 Pro S. No form of compensation is given for this other than access to the product. I do not own the product and I am asked to hold onto it until it is needed in the future for giveaways or for future use in the lab that OCN will setup.



The DM1 Pro S is the successor of the DM1 Pro, but fitted with the latest sensor available, the PixArt 3360, which is a public version of the 3366 in the most recent Logitech mice. It is widely renowned as the best sensor currently available. Just like the DM1 Pro or the Nixeus Revel the DM1 Pro S is a clone of the Sensei/Xai shape which many people believe to be the best ambidextrous mouse shape available today.

The version I review here is the glossy version, it's also available in matte black.



Boxing

The mouse comes in a small box with the mouse in soft foam, quite nice actually:

What's included:
- Dream Machines DM1 Pro S
- Extra mouse feet (more companies should do that)
- Manual
- A small warranty sheet

Box:









Weight & Shape

The shape is obviously very similar to the Xai/Sensei, although not completely identical. But in its dimensions it’s basically the same.
It’s a very nice shape to me, although personally I prefer the FK1+ a bit more. But that’s nitpicking, overall it's a great shape that doesn't have any weird edges or corners that irritate the fingers.

Weight: 82 g (on my scale)
Height: ~ 39 mm
Width: ~ 68 mm
Length: ~ 126 mm
Number of buttons: 6













I have no comparison pictures here with other mice because it's really the same shape/dimension as the Sensei/DM1 Pro/Revel so there are lot's of comparisons around. If you have any special requests I'll try to do them regardless.

How I grip the mouse







Of course shape is completely individual preference, so everyone has to try for himself in the end. The perfect shape for me might be horrible for others. So please keep the pictures of my grip in mind for comparison.



Sensor / Performance

What you’d expect from a 3360, it’s really good.

I’ll only post the mouse tester screen for the 400 CPI step, but rest assured it performs the same on the others too, at least in terms of PCS



Report rate stability




CPI steps




The steps are pretty much spot on! And I put that exclamation mark there because I've never seen them that accurate before, not even on Logitech mice. Even the 12000 CPI step is darn accurate, around 11950, and with all other 3360/3366 mice it was something like 12400-12500. And while that might be down to my unit and also the combination with that mouse pad it's still worth mentioning for me.
The steps are 400, 800, 1600, 2400, 4800 and 12000.


Speed related accuracy variance

Disclaimer: damn, I missed to upload just the SRAV video... it's in the video review below, timestamp 3:43


Angular displacement in that video on average was 0.55
Which is really great. But also on other later tries I had some that were more off, so the average dropped to 0.9 or 1.1 but still very good.

Lift Off Distance

LOD is pretty low, barely 1 CD.



Software

Jk, there is none where have we seen this before?



Buttons / Scroll Wheel / Cable

The main buttons are Omron D2FC-F-7N(20M), wheel is a blue TTC, CPI and side buttons are some Panasonic switches. The button response time for the Revel is a bit higher than the G Pro by ~0.9ms on average.

DM1 Pro S (A) vs Logitech G Pro (B)


The mousewheel has a mechanical encoder, I believe it's a TTC, don’t know which one exactly. Just like on the Revel I like the feel of a mechanical encoder. Feels more solid than most optical encoders to me.

I dislike the cable, because a) it's braided and b) it's stiff. It's ok if you suspend it somewhere in mid-air, but having a flexible rubber cable would be much more to my liking. But the stress relief is fine on my unit, I heard there was some trouble with the DM1 Pro





Build Quality

Overall the build quality is good, my unit has even buttons with similar click sounds and actuation, side buttons have only little pre-travel. I also really like the mouse feet, they are the same size as the Sensei so you should also easily get replacements and there are additional ones in the box so you are already covered. They also glide well and there is no drag with them. However there are flaws. I'll go over the smaller ones first and then come to the one that concerns me most:

The side buttons could be better, because the design with the switch being parallel to the buttons so it actuates directly and not via a lever (like on the Revel) is better in theory, but the switches used ruin them again. They are not terrible (like the EC), but they could be great I think.
Also there is light bleed through the sidebuttons and the logo LED looks pretty ugly. But those are all mainly cosmetic or minor concerns. My main problem is that my unit has lens rattle...



You can see here that is is pretty much a non issue on 400 CPI where I usually play at, so I didn't notice it in-game, but at 12000 it's ridiculous. Which is sad, because if it wasn't for that I would rate this mouse even higher. I couldn't try with other CPI settings yet, but I think it shouldn't be an issue at any step so I didn't bother.



Conclusion

Now the lens rattle really clouds the picture of this mouse, because other than that my unit was really fine and because of the better feet I would actually prefer it to the Revel. I still do, because at 400 CPI it is not an issue, but I can't really recommend a mouse with such a flaw. I only have one unit, so I can't say if it's a general thing or just my unit, but let me paraphrase it like this:

I can recommend the DM1 Pro S if you want the Sensei shape with 3360 and us it at 400 CPI on a soft pad. If you use a hard pad or intend to use after market skates anyway and want to use other CPI steps I'd recommend the Revel because that one had a fine and stable sensor and the only trouble were terrible mouse feet that scratch my soft pad.

Also if you want to see it in video you can do that here

Edited by Ino. - 8/31/16 at 10:20am
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post #2 of 19
I got the mouse and i love it smile.gif
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Originally Posted by DuckyFilc0 View Post

I got the mouse and i love it smile.gif

Can you test yours for sensor rattle to see if Ino got a defective one or if it's a widespread issue?
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Can you test yours for sensor rattle to see if Ino got a defective one or if it's a widespread issue?

Mine has no rattle, I got one from the first batch they sent out.
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did you forget to take off the plastic from the feet? rolleyes.gif
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did you forget to take off the plastic from the feet? rolleyes.gif

LOL i did. It took me like 5 min of gaming to realize it was on there. Tbh it reminded me of the glide of the puretrak mouse feet. So I thought the mousefeet were just complete garbage. But once off they are really slick.
Edited by DuckyFilc0 - 8/31/16 at 11:01am
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I think it's less lens rattle and more board rattle. Since there are zero screws to hold the PCB, I put in some thin double sided tape where it's pressure fitted and the rattle problem went away. After fixing the M1/M2 buttons and shoring it up a little, this mouse is current champion for me. thumb.gif
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I think it's less lens rattle and more board rattle. Since there are zero screws to hold the PCB, I put in some thin double sided tape where it's pressure fitted and the rattle problem went away. After fixing the M1/M2 buttons and shoring it up a little, this mouse is current champion for me. thumb.gif

Is it common for gaming mice to have an unscrewed PCB?
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did you forget to take off the plastic from the feet? rolleyes.gif

No, I took pictures first thing when I got it, peeled it off right after.
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I think it's less lens rattle and more board rattle. Since there are zero screws to hold the PCB, I put in some thin double sided tape where it's pressure fitted and the rattle problem went away. After fixing the M1/M2 buttons and shoring it up a little, this mouse is current champion for me. thumb.gif

That could be it, and it would be bad because that's a flawed design then that will affect every unit. Of course you can fix it with glue or something but it shouldn't be necessary.
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Nice review ino. thumb.gif

One thing about black glossy is it really shows off dust easy. Extra mouse feet are always nice.

Seems the DM1 Pro S mouse feet have more height than the Revel?
     
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