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post #41 of 102
Bit by bit we are losing our freedom but then again it is their products and the regular joe won't notice or care

we are the 1%
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How many of your rigs throughout the years have you used any OS besides Windows? If the answer is none, you have been playing in Microsoft's "walled garden", as you put it.

As a gamer I have no choice.

Not sure what you are getting at really as the previous OS's have never come close to M$ latest sleazy strategies.

Always disregarded the blatant in your face wall gardens of Apple as I never owned a machine that ran OSX, so again your point is not valid here. So now M$ is pulling an Apple where you have to buy M$ approved hardware or else you're out of luck.

M$ is becoming more like Apple everyday. Wake up!!
 
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post #43 of 102
Why do they have to wreck everything that's ever good? Every great OS or program or smartphone app eventually gets ruined when they try and force users into some new policy that no one ever voted for or wants.

They ruined Windows 8 by removing an 18 year old toolbar that everyone relied on.

With Win 10 they put it back on but then infested the entire OS with malware.

If you want to make Windows 10 free, bloat it with malware and anyone who wants to use it for free must deal with malware. Why not make a malware free version for paying users? That's the whole point of paying for the damn thing.
post #44 of 102
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Windows 7 is almost a decade old and Windows 8/8.1 is almost half a decade old. Either move onto Windows 10 or move to one of the many hundreds of Linux distros.

Either that, or stay with Skylake/Vishera for the rest of your life.

EDIT: I was thinking of Vista, not 7 redface.gif
Rude, snarky, and condescending. How is this person a "moderator"?
post #45 of 102
Okay...? Windows 7 has been out of mainstream support and in the extended "Security Only" phase of support for over 18 months now.

The only thing that's happened is that the device manufacturers and Microsoft are not writing chipset drivers for Kaby Lake for an OS that's not in mainstream support. I don't understand the problem here.
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post #46 of 102
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You know what is silly, people not using any discernment and accepting this.

We were never restricted like this before. I can take any CPU and run it with Win 7, and now the collusion between these companies are limiting you to Win 10.

People stop defending these crooks. Why are you as a consumer defending this is beyond me?!

Can't you see that M$spy wants you in their Win 10 walled garden and they are desperate, so very desperate. Intel/AMD are only happy to join the fraternal fray.

At a bare minimum open your eyes and see it for what it is. Take a middle ground and show your displeasure by being vocal and at a maximum vote with your wallet!!

Its the mental gymnastics they preform to protect themselves from the reality that they cant do anything about it, so they convince themselves that its fine and the best way for them to reinforce that mindset is by berating those like yourself for not accepting it and accusing you of stalling progress.

Also, not have the ability to talk with their wallets due to consumers lack of control over their spending on hobbies. They need their fix and if giving up freedoms to get that fix is whats required, regardless of whats lost in the process, then they're fine with that and its you and I who are the ones causing problems in the world.

Thats the hivemind for you. Better to have your toys and toe the line rather than be singled out. Cowards really.


Edit: Im calling it now. Eventually MS is going to try and charge pc users for online mp again with Windows store MS games. Every man and his dog on PC will try to convince the remaining sane that this is a good thing because they get new toys to play with and "things change". They'll use the ol "you dont get to have your cake and eat it too" thinking that they're the ones pointing that out to us. The irony will be lost on them.
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post #47 of 102
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I don't understand the problem here.

The problem is companies force-feeding their loyal users junk that no one voted for.
post #48 of 102
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Originally Posted by LoLomgbbq View Post

Its the mental gymnastics they preform to protect themselves from the reality that they cant do anything about it, so they convince themselves that its fine and the best way for them to reinforce that mindset is by berating those like yourself for not accepting it and accusing you of stalling progress.

Also, not have the ability to talk with their wallets due to consumers lack of control over their spending on hobbies. They need their fix and if giving up freedoms to get that fix, regardless of whats lost in the process, then they're fine with that and its you and I who are the ones causing problems in the world.

Thats the hivemind for you. Better to have your toys and toe the line rather than be singled out. Cowards really.

I honestly have no idea what either of you are talking about here.
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The problem is companies force-feeding their loyal users junk that no one voted for.

Intel and AMD make hardware. Microsoft writes software.

Intel has made new hardware. Microsoft has decided not to write drivers for Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 that would fully support the features of this new hardware because Windows 7 is out of mainstream support and is in the security-update-only extended support phase. 8.1 is still in mainstream support, though this does not guarantee new driver updates when there is a newer revision of Windows available.

You aren't being force-fed anything here. A company has elected not to write drivers for a particular hardware and software combination and you consider that to be force-feeding? I do not understand your logical progression.
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I honestly have no idea what either of you are talking about here.

This is the latest in a grand scheme by M$, or have you not been paying attention? I would suggest you talk to an OCN retired moderator by the name of tpi2007, he will run you up to speed.
 
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