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Why is there no Anti-patent agency that can remove generic patents like this or make the holder define the patent more narrowed?

That would get abused more than the patent office does now.

   
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post #22 of 43
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Why is there no Anti-patent agency that can remove generic patents like this or make the holder define the patent more narrowed?

There is a process.... Most of these "technologies" did exist long before they were supposedly patented. The real issue is that back in the 80's when a lot of the platform things were actually first done or refined... nobody patented things.

So the process involves finding the people involved who still have all the "white papers" and then going to court which obviously cost money. Then after you get the case tossed you have to go to the patent office and if you persist you can likely get the patent revoked....

Another hurdle currently is that a lot of the people who were involved in things that someone else claims to have created years or decades later... is that they may no longer be walking the earth.

The cost of doing the above can be more than just paying off the Troll.. which is the entire point. What actually needs an overhaul is the lawsuit process... When you lose a lawsuit you should be responsible for the other sides legal cost and time etc involved in defending against your trolling. If you can't pay... then the Firm that represented your trolling should be forced to and if they won't then the Lawyers involved should be disbarred. (it would also cut down on court work load that actually involves extortion since they are trying to make money off something another person (or persons) actually created... while using the patent office to do it after filing a false claim for the patent.)

People would be much more likely to defend themselves in these cases if it wasn't going to cost more than paying the Troll.

One name that comes to mind is Randy Farmer who has been fairly instrumental in patent troll defense... Simply because he created or helped to create most of the things they somehow patented much later.
post #23 of 43
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Haven't Patent trolls learned to not attack Valve/Steam, Amazon, and Newegg?

The filing claims that they won made a similar claim from Google:
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The Gittins Patent has previously been asserted in this Court in British Telecommunications plc v. Google Inc., C.A. No. 11-1249-LPS and is the subject of a claim construction Order issued by Judge Stark dated September 9, 2013, and an accompanying Memorandum Opinion of the same date.
post #24 of 43

Please try to keep political discussion out of here.

   
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post #25 of 43
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This kind of technology didn't exist when they patented it. That's how.

I've patented breathing before it was a thing, you all gotta pay!

It's like patenting a shape, say a wheel. Should not even be allowed by the stupid patent offices but they are a joke and will patent anything they get paid for, the more vague it is the better.
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So they have a patent on a digital newspaper kiosk? Thats stupid.
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post #27 of 43

Those patents cover every internet service on the planet.

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So this is why BT has made no improvements to broadband in most of the UK since 2002.

No plans to replace aluminum wiring to houses or offer FTTP for the forseeable future (3-5+ years), hilariously bad customer service. I've never had a good experience with an ISP
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post #29 of 43
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So this is why BT has made no improvements to broadband in most of the UK since 2002.

 

Well at least now we know they've been up to something. :p

     
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post #30 of 43
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This kind of technology didn't exist when they patented it. That's how.
Except it didn't patent actual technology, it is a patent for a concept and a very vague one at that.
The whole thing is so stupid it should have been rejected from the get go.
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