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Would you? What's the point of asking that question?

To point out that just blindly dismissing a survey with a complete lack of understanding the fundamental statistical basis and methodology just because the results are unfavorable for a certain company is biased and flawed in itself.
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post #102 of 125
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In 2 years the 1080 won't be 7% of the steam survey. The 970 at it's height was 8%... Also, not to do the thing, but I do have many friends that work at Nvidia and trust me, the 1080 didn't sell nearly as many units as the 970 did in it's first 3 months. The 970 broke sales records at the company. The 1080 did not.

That is irrelevant.

If on the 2 months of release the 970 sold 50,000 units, and on the 2 months of release the 1080 sold 60,000 units, it is a win in nvidia books.
The middle cards will almost always out-sell the high end cards. That is a fact. Most people don't have 700$+ to spend on a GPU.

Over time the 1070 and the 1060 will definitely out sell the 1080 (and no one said otherwise). But the early adopters buy the 1080 as fast as it comes out. I'm sure the 980 also out sold the 970 on the first few months. The 970 was a winner as holidays and sales started, and it was a great seller card overall with its price/performance location in the market. But it is a fast early adopted card. There is a big difference.
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I'll stick to Jon Peddie for reliable data...
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post #104 of 125
Dual core CPU's and 1GB Vram still the majority.Guess i'm still in the majority.
Only thing is most people took the bait for free WIn 10.
Edit: Also i'm pretty sure the data is reliable.I just got the survey yesterday so i'm going to be included in September's data.Its just completely random who receives the survey.
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post #105 of 125
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Price/performance is awful cause miners drive up price. Like in 2013 when 280x went from $250 to over $400

Or when I sold a 7950 I paid $150 and got $500

Here are my mining gpu that made me 2k/month aka free hardware and cash
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Wish we could still mine and make money.

Never even understood how it work ahah

I could put pc in friend house with free electricity devil.gif
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post #106 of 125
Best part about the mining craze was when it ended. I got two 290's dirt cheap off of OCN here. Waterblocked them up and I had a blazing fast GPU set up for a while

Shame about crossfire being pretty borked in anything that wasn't extremely popular. Otherwise I may still even of had those cards.
    
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post #107 of 125
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Originally Posted by Slomo4shO View Post

I'll stick to Jon Peddie for reliable data...
Indeed.
post #108 of 125
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Originally Posted by Kinaesthetic View Post

I really do have to ask. Have you ever taken a statistics course in college/university?

I've gone through multiple Nvidia GPU iterations in the past year (I do stuff other than really game on them and I require CUDA) and I've never gotten a Steam survey either. But I don't care. Why?

Because even if Steam polled even 1% of their user base, they'd have a statistically significant representation of the hardware of their user base. Protip, you need about only 360,000 of the 125 million users on Steam to provide an accurate sample pool with only a 0.5% margin of error and a 99.99999999% confidence level. And only around 8.5 million if you want an even lower margin of error of 0.1%. Out of 125 million users, it is damn near a 100% guarantee that at least 360,000 people have done the survey.


You and others can literally complain all you want about how you never receive a survey. That doesn't change that mathematically, their survey results are completely sound. People who question a results of a survey just because it doesn't encompass literally everyone need to go back to college or uni. And I say this as someone who hated that course when I took it with a burning passion.

So if 1% was asked how many of that 1% declined because of privacy paranoia, you don't know so your 360,000 is thin air, so you have nothing to go on because you have no facts to go on.
Edited by Final8ty - 9/4/16 at 4:44am
post #109 of 125
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Originally Posted by Slomo4shO View Post

I'll stick to Jon Peddie for reliable data...

That will include market share for all users, not just gamers.

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Originally Posted by CravinR1 View Post

Price/performance is awful cause miners drive up price. Like in 2013 when 280x went from $250 to over $400

Or when I sold a 7950 I paid $150 and got $500

Here are my mining gpu that made me 2k/month aka free hardware and cash
500x1000px-LL-bae554d8_20140212_171701.jpeg



drool.gif


Wish we could still mine and make money.

Never even understood how it work ahah

I could put pc in friend house with free electricity devil.gif

It's not bad right now but is already slowly declining. I have to sell my 290s and 1070s soon.
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I've always found the Steam survey to be pretty dumb. Why not just let every user opt in to participate upon login once that time comes? It would provide a much bigger sample size that people wouldn't really question as much.

I wonder if you would come to the same conclusion if AMD was leading in this survey.

I don't see the relevance but yes, I would, considering I've owned more NVIDIAs than AMDs.

My rig specs are pretty outdated also, I'm on a 5820k, Samsung 950 Pro (NVME), and 2 480s now.
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