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Did Fermi ever get DX12 support? If not, why is it listed in DX12 GPUs?
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Originally Posted by xxpenguinxx View Post

I don't even see the GTX 580, yet there's still people here on OCN that run them.

Don't see how that's relevant, but here ya go:



GTX 580 sitting at .07% and hasn't moved for months.
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Did Fermi ever get DX12 support? If not, why is it listed in DX12 GPUs?

Fermi Supports DX11, so it should support FEATURE level 12_0. All the new DX12 features are in level 12_1. Not sure if it supports Level 12_0 though via drivers.
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Originally Posted by cageymaru, post: 1042515444, member: 64876 
Easy to interpret the 970 numbers and why the Steam Survey is always flawed.

#1. Steam rarely asks users to take the survey. My Steam account dates back to the launch date of "The Orange Box". I've been asked to be surveyed 2 or 3 times since then. I upgrade every product cycle just about. Just think of the surveys I have missed. Multiply that by the number of Steam users. Then take into account that the survey isn't mandatory and you can opt out of letting Valve scan your PC and invade your privacy. Then finally think about how many people wear tinfoil hats...

#2. I wonder how the survey works also. Say You bought a GTX 970 at launch. You sell it to me when you upgrade to a GTX 1080. You don't get surveyed for August. I buy your GTX 970. I get surveyed. Does this mean that there are two people with the same card on Steam or does it mean that only I have a GTX 970 in the Steam Survey? I'd think that since it counts trends up and down; it still thinks that you have a 970 and I have a new 970. Thus the 970 numbers become inflated.

#3. GTX 970 was phased out and you can buy them for $200 or less. For someone with a GTX 950 budget, this is a godsend.

Check this one out.
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I saw it when I had a GTX 980 after those come out. Since then it's not popped up once, despite several GPU changes > Titan X > SLI 980Ti, > 390X > Fury X.

Steam is extremely inaccurate, as according to them the vast majority of gamers are on laptops as well.
That's a lot Dual cores and Intel graphics as well.

and then this,
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Originally Posted by jamiehard1989;29966052 
I had the steam survey pop up twice the week, filled it in both times, its means nothing.


And this guy Buys 4 of everything most of the time, he runs the Benchmark threads, but.
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Originally Posted by Kaapstad;29966091 
Never pops up for me, I don't want to fill it in anyway.

AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1 - Page 15 - Overclockers UK Forums


Anyone who takes the steam survey seriously can not be taken seriously
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Check this one out.
and then this,
And this guy Buys 4 of everything most of the time, he runs the Benchmark threads, but.
AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1 - Page 15 - Overclockers UK Forums


Anyone who takes the steam survey seriously can not be taken seriously

Trying hard to find excuses ey?

I think nobody expects the survey to be accurate, as in nail the percentage, but there is no point in denying that it give a pretty good indication on what company move a lot of units and what cards is very popular.

GTX 1060/1070/1080 is undoubtly very popular and I expect that 1070 will reclaim the top very soon
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Anyone who takes the steam survey seriously can not be taken seriously

Tell that to Developers. Just about every AAA title studio uses the Steam Survey as the "Recommended Specs". Developers optimize towards the hardware most people own.
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Tell that to Developers. Just about every AAA title studio uses the Steam Survey as the "Recommended Specs". Developers optimize towards the hardware most people own.

So you missed the context totally. which it about it being accurate.
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Originally Posted by iLeakStuff View Post

Trying hard to find excuses ey?

I think nobody expects the survey to be accurate,

My point is about it not being accurate so no excuses needed.
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Originally Posted by Final8ty View Post

My point is about it not being accurate so no excuses needed.
Well your point was that nobody should take it seriously, but I think we should to some extent
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Originally Posted by iLeakStuff View Post

Trying hard to find excuses ey?

I think nobody expects the survey to be accurate,

My point is about it not being accurate so no excuses needed.
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Well your point was that nobody should take it seriously, but I think we should to some extent

In the context of accuracy, but that is to hard for some to follow no matter how many times its spelled out with quotes of users not being surveyed.
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Originally Posted by Final8ty View Post

So you missed the context totally. which it about it being accurate.

As long as the Steam Survey is a truly randomized sample, the results are good statistically speaking. They only need about 10K users for it to be significant and accurate to within a very small margin of error.


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Steam is extremely inaccurate, as according to them the vast majority of gamers are on laptops as well.
That's a lot Dual cores and Intel graphics as well.

Don't take into consideration the vast majority of people on Steam are also playing DOTA2, CS:GO, TF2, Rust, etc. Games that are typically less demanding.
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My point is about it not being accurate so no excuses needed.
In the context of accuracy, but that is to hard for some to follow no matter how many times its spelled out with quotes of users not being surveyed.

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