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Originally Posted by xxpenguinxx View Post

Maybe not with Nvidia, but that 49% on Windows 10 seems way off.
Not really.
It seems people here constantly forget that the majority of people using a PC, actually don't know anything besides running their programs.
For a year in a row Microsoft has done everything to force your PC to update to windows 10 and the vast majority simply didn't have the knowledge to stop this.
post #92 of 125
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Originally Posted by Chaython View Post

THE rx SERIES ISN'T ON THE HARDWARE SURVEY AT ALL - meaning it counts as "other" which could be up to 87.11% of GPUs tongue.gif
Let the fun begin!

The RX series is there actually.



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Sad how RX 480 was released earlier but still a lot less on the survey compared to the 1060.
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post #94 of 125
More 1060 users that RX480 users among the participants of the survey. A strong showing by the 1070. Interesting.

I would have expected the more RX480's since it launched earlier and is more future-proofed than the 1060 but it seems like there are some supply issues for AMD at the time when the survey was conducted. I've come across people who were originally intending to buy a RX480 AIB but opted for a 1060 or 1070 instead because the 480's weren't available.

Availability and stabilizing prices for the 1060 and 1070 are really doing good for Nv.
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post #95 of 125
I've always found the Steam survey to be pretty dumb. Why not just let every user opt in to participate upon login once that time comes? It would provide a much bigger sample size that people wouldn't really question as much.
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post #96 of 125
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Funny thats what i though of you.

I really do have to ask. Have you ever taken a statistics course in college/university?

I've gone through multiple Nvidia GPU iterations in the past year (I do stuff other than really game on them and I require CUDA) and I've never gotten a Steam survey either. But I don't care. Why?

Because even if Steam polled even 1% of their user base, they'd have a statistically significant representation of the hardware of their user base. Protip, you need about only 360,000 of the 125 million users on Steam to provide an accurate sample pool with only a 0.5% margin of error and a 99.99999999% confidence level. And only around 8.5 million if you want an even lower margin of error of 0.1%. Out of 125 million users, it is damn near a 100% guarantee that at least 360,000 people have done the survey.


You and others can literally complain all you want about how you never receive a survey. That doesn't change that mathematically, their survey results are completely sound. People who question a results of a survey just because it doesn't encompass literally everyone need to go back to college or uni. And I say this as someone who hated that course when I took it with a burning passion.
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Originally Posted by Final8ty View Post

Funny thats what i though of you.

I really do have to ask. Have you ever taken a statistics course in college/university?

I've gone through multiple Nvidia GPU iterations in the past year (I do stuff other than really game on them and I require CUDA) and I've never gotten a Steam survey either. But I don't care. Why?

Because even if Steam polled even 1% of their user base, they'd have a statistically significant representation of the hardware of their user base. Protip, you need about only 360,000 of the 125 million users on Steam to provide an accurate sample pool with only a 0.5% margin of error and a 99.99999999% confidence level. And only around 8.5 million if you want an even lower margin of error of 0.1%. Out of 125 million users, it is damn near a 100% guarantee that at least 360,000 people have done the survey.


You and others can literally complain all you want about how you never receive a survey. That doesn't change that mathematically, their survey results are completely sound. People who question a results of a survey just because it doesn't encompass literally everyone need to go back to college or uni. And I say this as someone who hated that course when I took it with a burning passion.

In the post quoted, he's referring to dmasteR pulling an unverifiable "fact" out his rear with not even a claim (also obviously unverifiable anyway) as to how he would know. Not the statistics. You could have quoted any other post he made for that.
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In the post quoted, he's referring to dmasteR pulling an unverifiable "fact" out his rear with not even a claim (also obviously unverifiable anyway) as to how he would know. Not the statistics. You could have quoted any other post he made for that.

I could've. That was just apparently the next to last post he made in this thread before going silent. Thought about direct quoting his other posts on statistics. Doesn't matter either way as his entire spiel in this thread was incorrect. I just basically picked one of his posts at random. Happened to be reading the second page and decided to be lazy and not go back to page 1.

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Originally Posted by Stealth Pyros View Post

I've always found the Steam survey to be pretty dumb. Why not just let every user opt in to participate upon login once that time comes? It would provide a much bigger sample size that people wouldn't really question as much.

I wonder if you would come to the same conclusion if AMD was leading in this survey.
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I wonder if you would come to the same conclusion if AMD was leading in this survey.
Would you? What's the point of asking that question?

Personally I think it's likely that this is true, but so are the market share reports. I personally can't see too many people buying Polaris cards as they're slower in the benchmark charts, overclock less and consume far more power compared to 1060, plus not all that competitively priced, plus mindshare. Furthermore, the number of reviews for Pascal cards on Newegg blows away the number of reviews for Polaris cards (even 1060 vs 480, never mind reviews for GP104 cards), as do the number of comments on their respective nowinstock trackers (2500 for RX 480, double digits for the other 400 series cards, but nearly 40,000 for 1080 and 5500 for 1070, 500 for 1060).

Almost all evidence points to Pascal cards selling a lot more than Polaris, but it still seems that AMD is doing quite well and that's good.
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