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But then the said culled person would have already either set up himself in a better position or started his own. You're trying to argue


How does one set up in a better position when theres a high competition for jobs, automation removing jobs and being outbid by people who lowball and are willing to work for unrealistic low pay?

Jobs are not easy to come by like snapping fingers y know?
By being smart I guess. Learning and always improving yourself. If you be a sitting duck, you will be shot
post #52 of 93
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This is where my thoughts become abstract but it could open up possibilities for jobs we've never thought about or to put workload where we thought it wouldn't really be required. Everyday scientific data is looked over because we search for things within specific guidelines, and if they don't meet those guidelines they're often overlooked until the guidelines are tweaked with new data. We might find a plethora of jobs in 50 years from now due to a mass population not working / bored / wanting to do something other than have fun. For example a rich kid might buy a car every year and crash it till he gets bored and ventures his money into something useful.
Sounds comparable to hardware / software. There's always going to be one ahead and one having to catch up. Unfortunately, people are the ones who have to catch up.

Thats a dystopian future if i ever saw one. People catch up? How about we slow or nix automation in some industries when people can dobthe job just fine? Corporations are the only ones benefitting. Not you not me nor the general public. Wake up.
post #53 of 93
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By being smart I guess. Learning and always improving yourself. If you be a sitting duck, you will be shot


Tell that to the masses of university graduates who cant find a job as companies hire third rate people to save cost. Its not about improving oneself. Its about the greedy nature of companies

Id love to see you look back on this post when your job gets cut by automation.
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Technology for the most part automates the most manual, repetitive, and simplest jobs out of all the ones that exist in the economy.... been doing it for thousands of years. You'd expect we'd all be unemployed by now but it seems to have worked out.
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Technology for the most part automates the most manual, repetitive, and simplest jobs out of all the ones that exist in the economy.... been doing it for thousands of years. You'd expect we'd all be unemployed by now but it seems to have worked out.

We are getting there sooner or later. The population back then wasnt that much. Now we have billions more competiting for jobs against the uncertainity of automation and third world migrants.
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By being smart I guess. Learning and always improving yourself. If you be a sitting duck, you will be shot


Tell that to the masses of university graduates who cant find a job as companies hire third rate people to save cost. Its not about improving oneself. Its about the greedy nature of companies

Id love to see you look back on this post when your job gets cut by automation.
"Gets cut" it already was cut. And that is what I did, look for a better job and build skills. What younger gen don't get is that if you worked at flipping burgers at your last job, your skill are not of flipping burgers, but can also be applied in industries where that skill gets used. You're being overtly negative about something that you have no control over. If you can't get through a level with guns blazing, maybe try to sneak past the enemy. wink.gif
Also, on phone so this darn auto mated thing pushed submit before I could say what what I wanted to. Oh the irony!!!
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"Gets cut"

Okay, made redundant, fine. But you get my drift. Is that all you hsve to argue against my post?
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"Gets cut" it already was cut. And that is what I did, look for a better job and build skills. What younger gen don't get is that if you worked at flipping burgers at your last job, your skill are not of flipping burgers, but can also be applied in industries where that skill gets used. You're being overtly negative about something that you have no control over
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Its the same for all industries. No matter biomedical or aerospace, its more widespread than you think.

Whatever skills one has, no matter will be negated by automation. Its not being overtly negative. Its being realistic. Even low wage burger flippers are now under threat by automatic burger machines that can basically do the job.
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Looking forward to the day where robots will put us out of work.

Im sure you'll look back fondly on this post when your job gets cut by automation.
You're making the assumption that hiring a payroll full of robotic engineers, computer scientists, and electronics engineers, as well as having the robots manufactured will be cheaper than just employing people for a low wage. I think the main market for robotics would be in jobs that require some skill and are mainly repetitive tasks, such as production lines. Also robots aren't very versatile, humans will practically always one-up them that way (if a robot is versatile chances are it's incredibly expensive).

Anyway, what do you think will happen when these people become unemployed? If we're talking mass unemployment the government will eventually have to step in and do something. That's what I meant by economic change. You're assuming the economy will operate exactly as it does today. I highly doubt it will. When the industrial revolution happened did everyone in the world just become an unemployed farm hand?
 
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We are getting there sooner or later. The population back then wasnt that much. Now we have billions more competiting for jobs against the uncertainity of automation and third world migrants.

It's inevitable, fighting it or trying to stop it via regulation is not a long term solution. The best you can do is hold on to a useless job that isn't needed anymore. Ever been to Oregon state, where you can't pump your own gas, and have to have a gas station attendant do it for you? We do not need more completely useless jobs like that, it's not good for anyone.

The same amount of money is going to exist before and after automation. If you fear there won't be any way for the average person to get in to the loop, fight against that, not automation.
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