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Hard drive cooling, is water cooling the best way to go?

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Im going to be using 4 Seagate 8tb HDD in my Versions for a video/edit PC. Im going with watercooling for all of it. Would it be worth the $170 to watercool all 4 of them? The rest of my case is watercooled and the case is very cluttered for so not so good air flow. More importantly would it kill my flow?
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Hard drives don't need any additional cooling beyond what case cooling provides.
In fact, cooling then shortens their lifespan.
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Hard drives don't need any additional cooling beyond what case cooling provides.
In fact, cooling then shortens their lifespan.

So does running them at 80C. wink.gif

Most Seagates show an operating range of 5-60C. Obviously, you want to stay close to the middle of that. If the cooling in your case has your drives running over 50C, you have far bigger problems to worry about than liquid cooling your HDD.
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I stand corrected. Gggle used to say that the drives the used in their server farms failed more offtet if the were on the cool side of their specs.

That has since changed.
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I stand corrected. Gggle used to say that the drives the used in their server farms failed more offtet if the were on the cool side of their specs.

That has since changed.
I remember that Google data. The fact it was based on several years of HDD production with no quality control data as to which production runs were better or worse than others made their resulting heat to life hypothesis dubious at best.

As I remember it, the best temp was about 50c for their drives, but not all HDD are the same, Server drives are way more expensive, so my assumption is they are quite different from our consumer drives. My experience is rather limited with only a couple new drives a year. I rarely have a failure (none is many many years) knock on wood, and I keep mine in the 30-45c range.
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I remember that Google data. The fact it was based on several years of HDD production with no quality control data as to which production runs were better or worse than others made their resulting heat to life hypothesis dubious at best.

As I remember it, the best temp was about 50c for their drives, but not all HDD are the same, Server drives are way more expensive, so my assumption is they are quite different from our consumer drives. My experience is rather limited with only a couple new drives a year. I rarely have a failure (none is many many years) knock on wood, and I keep mine in the 30-45c range.

If you notice, in the article it very politically states (and tip toes around) that they eventually realized their failure rates were mfg linked. Given published data on failure rates, it doesn't exactly take a rocket scientist to know who that mfg is.......which doesn't bode well for the OP.
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If you notice, in the article it very politically states (and tip toes around) that they eventually realized their failure rates were mfg linked. Given published data on failure rates, it doesn't exactly take a rocket scientist to know who that mfg is.......which doesn't bode well for the OP.

I'm not a rocket scientist, but I did stay at Holliday Inn............

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