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I'm planing on building a (somewhat overkill) home server in the next year or so that can provide storage/render/stream. I'm somewhat new to servers, more just inexperienced though. I have small motherboard selection, and I know I'll be setting up raid 10 (I think that's it) with SSD's as I want drive performance above pretty much everything else. My question is what is the fastest connection I can create between my current PC and the server I'm going to build. I also would appreciate some raid card recommendations.

On a side note. I would like to use a normal looking case. Size doesn't matter at all, but I don't want to use a super micro proprietary server case. I might end up using a 4U or 3U depending on if I watercool or not. Based on my current motherboard choices below, could I use a consumer/enthusiast case that supports E-ATX?

Motherboards I would use:
Supermicro X10DAC
Supermicro X10DRI

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I need help with basically every other choice. I'm going with either Intel 730 SSD's or some Sammy's
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I use an ANTEC 1200, you could go with the 900 but I wanted to put 16 drives in it. Look at my thread.
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I'm probably a bit late to the party:
But since you have enough PCI slots, you can consider passing thorugh videocard to VM and using that server as your desktop. You can do PCoIP if you want.
Unless you're hardcore gamer who needs dual 1080 and overclocked i7, Xeon e3 gives you nice desktop. If that's the case, I'd sell my desktop and buy 64 or 128Gig memory.

What's about the cace, I think caselabs is a great way to go.
post #4 of 11
You might be better off going single socket unless you really need the extra cores/RAM.

But more details about what you plan to do will help a lot. Do you plan to use a lot of VMs? What program will do your rendering? Do you plan to host a storage server? Etc...
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If you are looking for a do it all home server, look into unRAID, has dual parity support and great vm support with passthrough for pcie/usb ports and runs docker which is really nice. I use it for my media server and love it. Pretty sure linus tech tips uses unraid on one of their servers, also did a couple videos about multiple gaming VMs running on unRAID.

unRAID doesn't use raid so not sure if the performance loss will be a deal breaker for you but with the newest OS it supports turbo write which will write to all the disks at the same time if transferring lots of files, says it will fill up a gigabit network.

LimeTech - unRAID OS
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If you are looking for a do it all home server, look into unRAID, has dual parity support and great vm support with passthrough for pcie/usb ports and runs docker which is really nice. I use it for my media server and love it. Pretty sure linus tech tips uses unraid on one of their servers, also did a couple videos about multiple gaming VMs running on unRAID.

unRAID doesn't use raid so not sure if the performance loss will be a deal breaker for you but with the newest OS it supports turbo write which will write to all the disks at the same time if transferring lots of files, says it will fill up a gigabit network.

LimeTech - unRAID OS
2 Gamers 1 CPU - linus tech tips
10 Gamers 1 CPU - linus tech tips

hope this helps

Unless you have a 10GbE backbone in your house you're wasting your time with SSD RAID arrays. Go with unRAID, couple SSD cache drives, and as many HDDs as you need. As this guy said, dual parity protecting a JBOD array is about the safest you can get on the cheap.

Unless you have some serious encoding requirements you're also better served spending reducing your CPU/mobo budget by about 90%. A single E3 on a standard sized board can handle a pretty substantial storage system as well as media streaming duty while opening you up to a wider variety of cases and significantly more money for the rest of the system.

Edit: I guess the real question is how many simultaneous clients will be consuming media. The saved money can turn a 4TB array into a 40TB array, so it really depends what kind of overkill you want I guess.
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depends what you want and how much power you want to have on hand. was able to snag a hell of a deal on ebay if you look and wait. got a i7 xeon e3-1230 v1, supermicro x9 matx mother board and 8gb of ecc ram for $200 from a server farm pull out. dose everything i need from serving files to hosting a ark server and even a media/movie streaming computer.

all this is in a $30 case from microcenter and dose it all perfectly. recommend watching ebay for a similar deal. wouldn't go with anything older then a e series cpu.

also if you have a school account you may be able to get server 2012 for free from dreamspark or Microsoft imagine.
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depends what you want and how much power you want to have on hand. was able to snag a hell of a deal on ebay if you look and wait. got a i7 xeon e3-1230 v1, supermicro x9 matx mother board and 8gb of ecc ram for $200 from a server farm pull out. dose everything i need from serving files to hosting a ark server and even a media/movie streaming computer.

all this is in a $30 case from microcenter and dose it all perfectly. recommend watching ebay for a similar deal. wouldn't go with anything older then a e series cpu.

also if you have a school account you may be able to get server 2012 for free from dreamspark or Microsoft imagine.

Ebay always has nasty deals on the V1 and V2 E3s and E5s. If you really need a lot of cores that's really the only way to get some bang for your buck. Motherboards for the E5s are all over the place though.
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found this for $190 OBO http://www.ebay.com/itm/Supermicro-X9SCL-F-LGA1155-Motherboard-W-E3-1225V2-Heatsink-4GB-RAM-TQ533-/112155252167?hash=item1a1cf955c7:g:Y3QAAOSwtnpXoNmC

its an i5 tho with 4gb of ram but you can get more ram at a later date and for not much imo.

another with a good backplate and an i7 xeon but 2gb of ram. http://www.ebay.com/itm/SuperMicro-X9SCL-F-Xeon-E3-1230-CPU-2GB-RAM-1155-Motherboard-/291894088247?hash=item43f63e5237:g:sVgAAOSwTA9X5Cu9
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I'm probably a bit late to the party:
But since you have enough PCI slots, you can consider passing thorugh videocard to VM and using that server as your desktop. You can do PCoIP if you want.
Unless you're hardcore gamer who needs dual 1080 and overclocked i7, Xeon e3 gives you nice desktop. If that's the case, I'd sell my desktop and buy 64 or 128Gig memory.

What's about the cace, I think caselabs is a great way to go.

Thought about doing that, not sure if I want to yet. Ill be moving between two locations though and having both sounds nice.
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You might be better off going single socket unless you really need the extra cores/RAM.

But more details about what you plan to do will help a lot. Do you plan to use a lot of VMs? What program will do your rendering? Do you plan to host a storage server? Etc...

1.) Yes
2.) Don't know yet, its not actually MY stuff I'll be rendering, it's for one of my friends.
3.) Yes

I also wanted to get into folding a bit, but I might just build another machine for that.

I would love a Caselabs, but the waiting turns me off. But maybe.
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If you are looking for a do it all home server, look into unRAID, has dual parity support and great vm support with passthrough for pcie/usb ports and runs docker which is really nice. I use it for my media server and love it. Pretty sure linus tech tips uses unraid on one of their servers, also did a couple videos about multiple gaming VMs running on unRAID.

unRAID doesn't use raid so not sure if the performance loss will be a deal breaker for you but with the newest OS it supports turbo write which will write to all the disks at the same time if transferring lots of files, says it will fill up a gigabit network.

LimeTech - unRAID OS
2 Gamers 1 CPU - linus tech tips
10 Gamers 1 CPU - linus tech tips

hope this helps

Saw their videos on it. It looks super easy to setup too, which is a plus for me.
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Unless you have a 10GbE backbone in your house you're wasting your time with SSD RAID arrays. Go with unRAID, couple SSD cache drives, and as many HDDs as you need. As this guy said, dual parity protecting a JBOD array is about the safest you can get on the cheap.

Unless you have some serious encoding requirements you're also better served spending reducing your CPU/mobo budget by about 90%. A single E3 on a standard sized board can handle a pretty substantial storage system as well as media streaming duty while opening you up to a wider variety of cases and significantly more money for the rest of the system.

Edit: I guess the real question is how many simultaneous clients will be consuming media. The saved money can turn a 4TB array into a 40TB array, so it really depends what kind of overkill you want I guess.

I actually don't really care about the transfer speeds to and from clients, I just want to be able to save as much space inside a case so that I can stick more ssd's in it. Hard drives pretty much need to be in their respective bays, but I could duct tape an ssd anywhere. Not that I would literally do that. I'd come up with some modded way to fit more ssd per inch, but whatever. I bet you get the idea.
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depends what you want and how much power you want to have on hand. was able to snag a hell of a deal on ebay if you look and wait. got a i7 xeon e3-1230 v1, supermicro x9 matx mother board and 8gb of ecc ram for $200 from a server farm pull out. dose everything i need from serving files to hosting a ark server and even a media/movie streaming computer.

all this is in a $30 case from microcenter and dose it all perfectly. recommend watching ebay for a similar deal. wouldn't go with anything older then a e series cpu.

also if you have a school account you may be able to get server 2012 for free from dreamspark or Microsoft imagine.
Ill check up on server 2012. If I could snag that for free then great.
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Ebay always has nasty deals on the V1 and V2 E3s and E5s. If you really need a lot of cores that's really the only way to get some bang for your buck. Motherboards for the E5s are all over the place though.

Planning to get the CPU's on Ebay. Theyre cheap as hell.
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Razer Blackwidow Chroma 850 Watt In Win Mana-136 Razer Deathadder Chroma 
Mouse PadAudio
Generic On-Board 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-5930k @ 4.4ghz 1.276v MSI X99 Godlike Gaming MSI GTX 980 Ti Lightning @ 1460 core 3850 mem Trident Z 3200Mhz 16GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Intel 730 series 240GB None Corsair H110i Windows 10 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer Blackwidow Chroma EVGA 1200 P2 EVGA DG-87 Razer Deathadder Chroma 
Mouse Pad
Generic RIT Tiger Mousepad 
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2012-2015
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2015-present
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-3930k @ 3.2 MSI X79A-GD45 Plus EVGA GTX 980 SC ACX 2.0 16GB Adata 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
1 TB Toshiba 7200RPM Intel 730 Series 256GB SSD CLLC on CPU Windows 10 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer Blackwidow Chroma 850 Watt In Win Mana-136 Razer Deathadder Chroma 
Mouse PadAudio
Generic On-Board 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-5930k @ 4.4ghz 1.276v MSI X99 Godlike Gaming MSI GTX 980 Ti Lightning @ 1460 core 3850 mem Trident Z 3200Mhz 16GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Intel 730 series 240GB None Corsair H110i Windows 10 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer Blackwidow Chroma EVGA 1200 P2 EVGA DG-87 Razer Deathadder Chroma 
Mouse Pad
Generic RIT Tiger Mousepad 
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