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Probably. I think the reason iOS has such amazing standby time is because many processes are stopped when the phone is idling. Then when the phone becomes active again, they kick back up. I've noticed that the GPS is hardly ever on, even if you turn it on. This is in Stark contrast to GPS on Android phones which are perpetually on if you turn it on.

That's why I left GPS off on my Note 4 most of the time. It sucked the battery dry, even when idle.

Indeed. My last Android phone had a nominally superior battery life by dint of the spec sheet but in practice was inferior to my 5s. I think that much of that has to do with iOS optimisation and the close integration it enjoys with Apple's hardware. I tend to hold on to phones for a bit and don't do much by way of customisation or gaming or the like. In that respect the iPhone is a perfect fit for me.

I've been seriously considering a 7 Plus but I may end up waiting it out for the 7s/8/whatever they end up calling it. This 5s upon which I am currently typing is still more than enough for my needs. There's something to be said for intrinsic optimisation and much softer 'gating' for OS updates; it really keeps these phones relevant.
     
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I've been seriously considering a 7 Plus but I may end up waiting it out for the 7s/8/whatever they end up calling it. This 5s upon which I am currently typing is still more than enough for my needs. There's something to be said for intrinsic optimisation and much softer 'gating' for OS updates; it really keeps these phones relevant.

There's always the SE, which is a "cheap" alternative if you want to keep the screen size the same.
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Indeed. My last Android phone had a nominally superior battery life by dint of the spec sheet but in practice was inferior to my 5s. I think that much of that has to do with iOS optimisation and the close integration it enjoys with Apple's hardware. I tend to hold on to phones for a bit and don't do much by way of customisation or gaming or the like. In that respect the iPhone is a perfect fit for me.

I've been seriously considering a 7 Plus but I may end up waiting it out for the 7s/8/whatever they end up calling it. This 5s upon which I am currently typing is still more than enough for my needs. There's something to be said for intrinsic optimisation and much softer 'gating' for OS updates; it really keeps these phones relevant.

In regards of battery, I don't think any iPhone can come close to Sony's phones with Battery saver enabled.

And there are always good battery manager apps available for Android. Just have a good look around and don't be lazy, and your Android phones can be anything you want thumb.gif
Edited by blue1512 - 9/30/16 at 12:38am
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I don't think any iPhone can come close to Battery saver feature of Sony's.

And there are always good battery manager apps available for Android. Just have a good look around and don't be lazy, and your Android phones can be anything you want thumb.gif

 

You've opened my eyes. I would never have imagined that I could use Google/the app store/common sense to address the battery issues I had with that phone (Moto G). rolleyessmileyanim.gif With similar settings in terms of location, data, and Wi-Fi, my iPhone outlasts it. You've got to pay up and pay the right people with Android phones to get the world-beater batteries and access to OS upgrades. Weighing the overall experience then, I prefer iOS to Android and I like the fact that Apple's SoC's are very good and closely optimised with iOS.

     
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You've opened my eyes. I would never have imagined that I could use Google/the app store/common sense to address the battery issues I had with that phone (Moto G). rolleyessmileyanim.gif  With similar settings in terms of location, data, and Wi-Fi, my iPhone outlasts it. You've got to pay up and pay the right people with Android phones to get the world-beater batteries and access to OS upgrades. Weighing the overall experience then, I prefer iOS to Android and I like the fact that Apple's SoC's are very good and closely optimised with iOS.

Sarcasm detected thumb.gif

Anw, you don't have to pay for a lot of great free battery managing apps though. With Moto G's 2700 mAh, I really doubt that it can't beat iP 5s' 1554 mAh if set up correctly.
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It can't do it properly? What do you mean by that?
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Probably. I think the reason iOS has such amazing standby time is because many processes are stopped when the phone is idling. Then when the phone becomes active again, they kick back up. I've noticed that the GPS is hardly ever on, even if you turn it on. This is in Stark contrast to GPS on Android phones which are perpetually on if you turn it on.

That's why I left GPS off on my Note 4 most of the time. It sucked the battery dry, even when idle.

Some tasks unfortunately, become worse off due to this "turn off" feature too.

I noticed a lot of issues when transferring pictures/files between apps, where an app would sleep/stop if screen became inactive/locked. This was never a problem on Android. Not all apps are that good at continuing to do things in the background, some just don't at all. Although it isn't an everyday thing (at least for me, could be for others), it can be somewhat really frustrating not having this true background/multi-tasking available on iOS, bar for a few apps frown.gif. Really annoying when trying to share holiday pictures!

I miss some other features as well such as, being able to send "whats-app" messages while offline on android, and it will send when you are online again. When no connection is detected, I can't press the send button on my iphone.

Certain third party apps, such as an alarm clock, need to be at the forefront/running for them to work for example. You may say why would you want a third party alarm, but it is due to limitations of the stock iOS one. So I don't know, maybe in future Apple could give users the option to enable true multi-tasking by apps.

I am somewhat tempted to go back to Android, I mean truthfully, I get pretty bad battery life on my iPhone 6s (and I don't game, only browsing/emails/whatsapp). My previous android phones werent that bad If I remember (and my battery is only at 7% wear). Only reason I will probably keep at it is, because I got an Apple Watch and, am looking to buy the new rMBP due next month. But, those Android phones (particulary Sony range) with those 2 days expected life (which would at least mean I would make it through the day right?). I was in France last weekend and, I would regularly have my battery dying by around 6-7pm frown.gif.
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You've opened my eyes. I would never have imagined that I could use Google/the app store/common sense to address the battery issues I had with that phone (Moto G). rolleyessmileyanim.gif  With similar settings in terms of location, data, and Wi-Fi, my iPhone outlasts it. You've got to pay up and pay the right people with Android phones to get the world-beater batteries and access to OS upgrades. Weighing the overall experience then, I prefer iOS to Android and I like the fact that Apple's SoC's are very good and closely optimised with iOS.

Moto G is a low end phone it's hard to expect great battery life from it but in my experience it is superior to the 5s when you actually use the phone.
5s's battery depletes much faster when you are using the phone. For example I installed and set up some apps on a brand new 5s and after a little over one hour and a half from 83% the battery went to 34%.
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You've opened my eyes. I would never have imagined that I could use Google/the app store/common sense to address the battery issues I had with that phone (Moto G). rolleyessmileyanim.gif  With similar settings in terms of location, data, and Wi-Fi, my iPhone outlasts it. You've got to pay up and pay the right people with Android phones to get the world-beater batteries and access to OS upgrades. Weighing the overall experience then, I prefer iOS to Android and I like the fact that Apple's SoC's are very good and closely optimised with iOS.

The iOS being optimized to tailor the SOC is the same thing people used to say about Console optimization. I do not think iOS cares what SOC it has. If this was the case the speed would be on App level too but it's not. Google Apps run really poorly on iOS. I would think with Apple having much faster SOC than Android how does optimization have to do with anything. I would be rocking a iPhone right now because iPhone 4 is my favorite phone of all time but after I changed carrier I was "forced" to Android phone. Because of that I stated using a lot of Google apps. I just find it pointless to run Google Apps in iOS. I do it on my iPad and the experience is poor.
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Moto G is a low end phone it's hard to expect great battery life from it but in my experience it is superior to the 5s when you actually use the phone.
5s's battery depletes much faster when you are using the phone. For example I installed and set up some apps on a brand new 5s and after a little over one hour and a half from 83% the battery went to 34%.

I mean, that was sort of my point. Mid-range Android != high-end Android, as I learned the hard way. I figured if the experience was great with Android I could save on phones in the future buying from that range. I thought I'd try the ecosystem, to compare to my experiences with WinPho and iOS. I thought it ugly and most of its customisation features were lost on me. I'm just not going to spend iPhone-equivalent money for a more annoying experience with more OS upgrade hassles and optimisation and customisation that I have to do myself to get the experience I want. Invariably for me that meant mods that changed my home screen to Windows Phone's stylistic and iPhone's menu layouts. Or I could just get an iPhone. And as a light to moderate user my 5s outlasts my Moto G with equivalent settings. I don't know what to tell you.
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The iOS being optimized to tailor the SOC is the same thing people used to say about Console optimization. I do not think iOS cares what SOC it has. If this was the case the speed would be on App level too but it's not. Google Apps run really poorly on iOS. I would think with Apple having much faster SOC than Android how does optimization have to do with anything. I would be rocking a iPhone right now because iPhone 4 is my favorite phone of all time but after I changed carrier I was "forced" to Android phone. Because of that I stated using a lot of Google apps. I just find it pointless to run Google Apps in iOS. I do it on my iPad and the experience is poor.

I don't know, I haven't got any real complaints with running Drive, Photos, or Docs on the 5s, though that's all I'm running for Google apps. Other apps run appreciably faster and smoother on the 5s than on the Moto G and with equivalent settings the iPhone outlasts it, and does far better with standby time. One app that eats the Moto alive when I try it on that device is the WoW Legion Companion. Totally locks up the system for a minute while it loads. 5s runs it in 15s without hanging the system up. Granted, as Serios mentioned the Moto G is not high-end, but as someone who dislikes Android as an OS to begin with, the value play is the only reason I'd use an Android phone. I'm not going to buy a Note 7 and customise it to look like I'm using an iPhone, I'm just going to spend the same amount on an iPhone, which I think makes sense.
     
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Razer Firefly Plantronics Rig 500e Gaming Headset Marantz Pro MPH-1 Monitoring Headphones S.M.S.L SD-793II Audio DAC + Headphone Amplifier 
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Xbox One Controller 
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Intel Core i7-4790k @ 4.6GHz Asrock Z97 Extreme6 EVGA GTX 1070 SC Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2x8GB) @ 2133 10-10-10-... 
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Intel 530 Series 480GB SSD Seagate 2TB SSHD LG DVD RW Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 
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Windows 10 40" Vizio HDTV HP Generic EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650w 
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Corsair Carbide 300R Logitech Generic HyperX Cloud 
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AMD FX-6300 @ 4.3GHz 1.35v Biostar TA970 v5.3 MSI HD 6950 2GB G.Skill Ripjaws Z 16GB (4x4GB) 1600 
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Cryorig H5 Ultimate Corsair AF120 (White LED) x3 Corsair AF140 (White LED) x2 Windows 10 Pro 
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Dell S2440L Microsoft Ergonomic 4000 EVGA B2 850w Corsair 300R 
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SteelSeries Rival 300 
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