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There is the thing. If one of the main selling point of Uncharted 4 is graphics than by the time you play it that point will lose it value. There are to many games now for me to play before having time to play older games.

If selling point of a game is graphics then I call that a crappy selling point. Plus, by the time I buy the game it will be cheap. I usually only buy that series after it drops below 10 bucks in the used bin.

I played previously Uncharted games. Even if they are old they look alright, but I don't play those for the graphics anyways, but for the short yet enjoyable absurd story line. I consider their game play somewhat decent. I'm not a big TPS nor FPS player so not really my top game genres to play.

I don't consider graphics a major point for a game at all. First major point for me is the game be fun to play or does it have great game play to be even consider a game. I tend to have the be fun part on top of my list.
 
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If selling point of a game is graphics then I call that a crappy selling point. Plus, by the time I buy the game it will be cheap. I usually only buy that series after it drops below 10 bucks in the used bin.

I played previously Uncharted games. Even if they are old they look alright, but I don't play those for the graphics anyways, but for the short yet enjoyable absurd story line. I consider their game play somewhat decent. I'm not a big TPS nor FPS player so not really my top game genres to play.

I don't consider graphics a major point for a game at all. First major point for me is the game be fun to play or does it have great game play to be even consider a game. I tend to have the be fun part on top of my list.
Yep. I bought a PS3 like three years after building my first PC,it still did not change the fact that i absolutely enjoyed TLoU,Uncharted 1,2,3 and God Of War 3.
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Yep. I bought a PS3 like three years after building my first PC,it still did not change the fact that i absolutely enjoyed TLoU,Uncharted 1,2,3 and God Of War 3.

Those are the games I got. One day I might get the time to play them.
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There is the thing. If one of the main selling point of Uncharted 4 is graphics than by the time you play it that point will lose it value. There are to many games now for me to play before having time to play older games.

Don't wait on older games just because they are older. Many of the best games are "older" although no Uncharted game is one of them so they can indeed wait. biggrin.gif
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I don't consider graphics a major point for a game at all.
I honestly find this incredibly odd, considering you have 2 980ti's and a 1440p display.

I haven't seen a single game one needed a 980ti to play, let alone 2 of them. BUT you still paid handsomely for a 1440p monitor and your rig while you refuse to buy games with pricetags over $10.

So, you see how one can find that confusing.
    
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Don't wait on older games just because they are older. Many of the best games are "older" although no Uncharted game is one of them so they can indeed wait. biggrin.gif

Most games I liked because of graphics. Some people say graphics are not important and a good game is a good game but to me graphics are the entry to playing a good game. I can play Warcraft Orc & Humans all day but we know that the game was never about graphics. Something like the recent Witcher 3 heavily relies on graphics. In 10-15 years its not going to be the good game its now. Probably still good but not as its now.
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Most games I liked because of graphics. Some people say graphics are not important and a good game is a good game but to me graphics are the entry to playing a good game. I can play Warcraft Orc & Humans all day but we know that the game was never about graphics. Something like the recent Witcher 3 heavily relies on graphics. In 10-15 years its not going to be the good game its now. Probably still good but not as its now.

"Graphics" is a rather vague term. The Witcher 3 relies more on its art design, which is "graphics," than its fidelity which is also graphics. Many games are potent in art design but not so much fidelity and vice versa. The ones truly special in art design are the ones that can live on forever.

But you are right, graphics is a major factor for almost every game since you literally cannot have a game without graphics. Even games that may be said to not need great graphics do rely on their graphics heavily, such as the Civilization games. As time goes on graphics become more important.
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"Graphics" is a rather vague term. The Witcher 3 relies more on its art design, which is "graphics," than its fidelity which is also graphics. Many games are potent in art design but not so much fidelity and vice versa. The ones truly special in art design are the ones that can live on forever.

But you are right, graphics is a major factor for almost every game since you literally cannot have a game without graphics. Even games that may be said to not need great graphics do rely on their graphics heavily, such as the Civilization games. As time goes on graphics become more important.

Well yeah, my graphics I mean art design too. We do not know how well game age. Some games like OVerwatch do not emphasize graphics but art design.
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One can separate the two.

Graphical fidelity is mostly objective. Be it animation quality, models, textures, lighting... it is hard to judge as very often games have pros and cons when we talk fidelity, but it is objective and somewhat measurable.

Art style? That is far more important. The design of the game can make it effectively near ageless. It is simply more important than fidelity for atmosphere or gameplay. Thankfully, games have for quite some time crossed the (somewhat subjective) border where fidelity is less important than art style.
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I honestly find this incredibly odd, considering you have 2 980ti's and a 1440p display.

I haven't seen a single game one needed a 980ti to play, let alone 2 of them. BUT you still paid handsomely for a 1440p monitor and your rig while you refuse to buy games with pricetags over $10.

So, you see how one can find that confusing.

I don't use both my Tis for gaming. One folds while I game or both fold/boinc. Heck, my Wii U has seen more gaming than my Tis. I only got these two because they where used, great clockers, and put way more PPD out than the two OG Titans I had (never use SLI, always leave one card folding 24/7). biggrin.gif The most gaming they may see is Minecraft and Cities: Skylines. And the occasional Point and Click game like Deponia (one nutty series).

I only paid 200 for this used Overlord. tongue.gif Most if not all my hardware is 2nd hand. Gaming is on the bottom of my list when building my computers. I like to do other things with the hardware most of the time. Think only one nutter than me is 4thKor. I lost count how many 980Tis that one has.

I basically got this monitor for more screen space to do my programming classes on. Very nice when I can have both my word doc and visual studio open at the same time while keeping a eye on my BOINC clients and F@H client.

Reason I wait for games to go cheap. They are cheap by the time I get around to buying and playing them, and the fact I don't consider 60 bucks a good bang for buck for a video game and entertainment value. Plus, I'm a tight wade when it comes to money. But if a good deal shows up I will nab it. Offset of not spending a whole bunch of money on games equal to me having more hardware goodies and art supplies to fiddle with.
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