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I work in the industry. I don't know where you formed this opinion but dell pro support is the best in the industry. and completely worth paying for the extended warranty. Next day onsite support. No one else comes close.

I take it you've never had take your personal time calling their regular support lines overseas. You can't compare Pro Support calls you've made during what I presume to be your working hours.

I've made my opinion from having to call them dozens and dozens of time (not exaggerating)
     
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Sigh... Still no quad core option. I'm getting tired of these fake i5 and i7's.

Is a true quad core in a small form factor too much to ask for? Or is intel not allowing the use of their mobile quad cores in ultrabooks? Asus showed off that prototype so we know it can be done.
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Sigh... Still no quad core option. I'm getting tired of these fake i5 and i7's.

Is a true quad core in a small form factor too much to ask for? Or is intel not allowing the use of their mobile quad cores in ultrabooks? Asus showed off that prototype so we know it can be done.

It would get pretty hot. Even some of the skylake ultrathins with dual cores get uncomfortable and in general I'd say 33C is about the limited of what I find acceptable.for all these ultra-thin 2-in-1s.
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It would get pretty hot. Even some of the skylake ultrathins with dual cores get uncomfortable and in general I'd say 33C is about the limited of what I find acceptable.for all these ultra-thin 2-in-1s.

I hope that's 33C surface temperature you're refering to? 33C core temp would be redicilously cool, I've ran my 4770k at ~75C under full load for years without any issues and thats at 1.4V, these cpus really don't mind running a little hot.

Asus had a 13" slim quadcore ultrabook on display to demo their eGPU enclosure and it seemed to be perfectly fine.
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Thinkpads these days are getting a bit overrated, plus the lack of physically separate buttons on the trackpad annoys me to no end.

Going from T420 to T440s was awful at first because of the touchpad, but to be honest, when you get used to it (within the first 3-4 days in my case), you'll love it.
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Plus the fact that a lot of the smaller units come with one RAM slot only and the other stick of RAM physically soldered to the motherboard is a huge turn-off.

This however, is true and just absolutely insane.

I still like Lenovo T4*0 line, solid built quality, but the battery life they claim and what the actually deliver is unacceptable. I've got the built-in 3 cell and a huge external 6 cell battery, I like the big battery because it was cheap and it tilts the keyboard a bit which is really nice, but getting at most 6 hours from this enormous thing is ridiculous.

What doesn't help is them shipping with the fishy malware. XPS13 is a really promising contender for my next upgrade,
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I hope that's 33C surface temperature you're refering to? 33C core temp would be redicilously cool, I've ran my 4770k at ~75C under full load for years without any issues and thats at 1.4V, these cpus really don't mind running a little hot.

Asus had a 13" slim quadcore ultrabook on display to demo their eGPU enclosure and it seemed to be perfectly fine.

Surface temperature - underside and topside of the laptop chassis.
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Sigh... Still no quad core option. I'm getting tired of these fake i5 and i7's.

Is a true quad core in a small form factor too much to ask for? Or is intel not allowing the use of their mobile quad cores in ultrabooks? Asus showed off that prototype so we know it can be done.

You might want to have a look at the XPS15.
 
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You might want to have a look at the XPS15.

I know it exists, and its close, but its too expensive and there's no option for either no or a more basic dGPU(which would lower the cost).

What I personally want to see:
  • Display: Good quality 14"(Or 15.6" with next to no bezels like the XPS15) 1080p IPS/VA
  • Build: Somewhat small bezels, decent&solid keyboard and as thin as possible without compromising battery life and cooling.
  • Processor: True quadcore CPU i5/i7(For example: i5-6440HQ; i7-6700HQ; i7-6770HQ; i7-6820HQ; i7-6820HK; i7-6870HQ)
  • Grapics: iGPU(Intel HD Graphics 530 or Iris Pro Graphics 580) or basic dGPU(GTX 940MX or 945M)
  • Storage: 512GB Sata or 256GB NVME SSD
  • IO: USB3.1g2/TB3(USB-C); DP1.3, HDMI2.0b and some USB2.1/3.0 type A ports.
  • Price: Up to €1200.

Edited by Gilles3000 - 9/19/16 at 5:43am
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I know! There are some decent ones out there though, just non of them tick all my boxes...


Thinkpad 13: no backlit keyboard, weak construction around screen.
ZenBook: mediocre keyboard at best
Dell E7470: thicks most boxes but a little big
Dell E7270: no pcie M2
T460s: overpriced imo
T460p: thermal and TDP throttle
X260: single dim slot

I'm just hoping for a skull canyon laptop with proper screen and keyboard.
I dont care about how thin my laptop is, I want performance with an acceptable footprint (13-14 inch).

I just got a T460s last friday for work. I had to wait a little bit but I finally managed to get a "good deal" on one. I've took it out of the box just to have a look at it and, man, that thing is business laptop pr0n as it's best. I paid 1100 CAD$ tax in for the base model (i5-6200u, 4gb). Knowing my daily use, I could not foresee the reason I would pay much more for the i5-6300u/vPro variant. Charging 200$+ just for vPro and Trusted Platform is a bit too much imo.

Paired with a Samsung Pro 950 I've got laying around, it's going to be a fast little devil biggrin.gif.
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Call me interested. Looks like a nice upgrade. Not sure if I want to replace mine, may be go with 15" model.
I'm definately in the market, my old VAIO Z2 is too old. But still runs perfect.
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