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OR, you know, high performance, which is what really matters.
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I don't like high clocks, prefer them to be lower, but powerful and performance increased.
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^ If high performance is achieved, high clocks or low clocks don't really matter to me as long as perf/watt isn't sacrificed.
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I don't think the process is the limiter here. GP107 is manufactured on GloFo 14nm and is achieving high clock speeds just fine.

It's architectural, Polaris just sucks at clocking. I imagine Vega had work done on that front.
You'd think the clocks would be much higher with very few cores but it has (claimed) a 1380mhz boost clock. That's less than the Titan's base clock. Anyway, we'll just have to wait for release to see what the max possible clocks are.
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You'd think the clocks would be much higher with very few cores but it has (claimed) a 1380mhz boost clock. That's less than the Titan's base clock. Anyway, we'll just have to wait for release to see what the max possible clocks are.
It also has to fit within a 75W power envelope. Notice that the cut down 1050 part is clocking higher than that, which can be afforded by the lower core count reducing power draw.
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http://wccftech.com/amd-vega-10-vega-11-magnum/

It's WCCFTech, so probably complete bull, but I like to speculate tongue.gif
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The structure and configuration of SIMD units is entirely new. Each SIMD is now capable of simultaneously processing variable length wavefronts. It also includes clever new coherency features to ensure peak stream processor occupancy in each compute unit at all times and reduce access times to cache and HBM. Memory delta color compression has also been improved. We’ll talk about the new architecture a lot more in-depth in a forthcoming article.

In a nutshell:

- Vega 10 coming in late 2016 for professional market
- Released in early Q1 2017 for consumer market
- Followed by Vega 11 closer to the summer
- Vega 10 is 12 TFLOPS, 16GB HBM2 at 512GB/s, with a TDP of 230W
- Vega 11 is 7 TFLOPS, 8GB HBM2 at 256GB/s, with a TDP of 130W
- Vega 11 is supposed to replace Polaris 10 in the midrange market at the 250$ bracket
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http://wccftech.com/amd-vega-10-vega-11-magnum/

It's WCCFTech, so probably complete bull, but I like to speculate tongue.gif
In a nutshell:

- Vega 10 coming in late 2016 for professional market
- Released in early Q1 2017 for consumer market
- Followed by Vega 11 closer to the summer
- Vega 10 is 12 TFLOPS, 16GB HBM2 at 512GB/s, with a TDP of 230W
- Vega 11 is 7 TFLOPS, 8GB HBM2 at 256GB/s, with a TDP of 130W
- Vega 11 is supposed to replace Polaris 10 in the midrange market at the 250$ bracket

"pol10 will hit 1.6ghz, we have solid info". rofl
"Vega 11 is supposed to replace Polaris 10" 250$ with hbm2 ? lol
"Vega 10 coming in late 2016" road-map says 1h17. lmao

yeah, hype from a pathetic site.
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"pol10 will hit 1.6ghz, we have solid info". rofl
"Vega 11 is supposed to replace Polaris 10" 250$ with hbm2 ? lol
"Vega 10 coming in late 2016" road-map says 1h17. lmao

yeah, hype from a pathetic site.
Actually HBM2 isn't that much more expensive than GDDR5. Last time I checked it's 30% more per gig, and it has probably fallen since then. It's the interposer killing yields on chips, since they need to percisely make it sit on thousands of tiny bumps, and if they fail it's game over for the entire thing chip included.

A single HBM2 stack (1024 bit interface) would be much, much simpler than the 4 stacks (4096 bit interface) Fiji had to deal with. And if they managed to make the chip smaller than Polaris 10 due to architecture improvements, the extra cost would get counteracted.
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AMD has some patents for what you quoted from the wccftech article. Khalid(the author) is quite the AMD hype machine and it'd be quite scandalous if he fabricated the variable width wavefronts thing based on those. Hoping that his forthcoming article comes out soon to judge it better.
    
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"pol10 will hit 1.6ghz, we have solid info". rofl
"Vega 11 is supposed to replace Polaris 10" 250$ with hbm2 ? lol
"Vega 10 coming in late 2016" road-map says 1h17. lmao

yeah, hype from a pathetic site.

I agree, WCCFTECH is a farce, a joke, no-one should take them seriously. I remember the countless 'insider' articles they posted about Polaris hitting 1500Mhz 'easily'. I called out the editor on this BS and other fabrications that turned out to not be true and he basically denied taking any responsibility for it all. In fact I think their source for those rumours was a poster on here who was trolling about his brother having info (can't re-call his name) as the rumour articles matched up directly with what that guy posted on here.

Anyway on topic - Vega 10 is not coming this year.
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RX series is ~20nm print on a 14nm process, it isn't 14nm print. It was used to produce a sellable product AND get the GloFlo 14nm process up to speed.
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