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Lets not forget that the AMD 480 approaches the performance of a 1070 in DOOM with Vulkan running.

You can bet whatever API consoles are using will run even better than that.
I noticed this statement is pretty wrong. Nvidia gpus' mean performances are inflated by 75%. They have a frame time latency handicap. GTX 1080 is only as good as 76 fps; about just as much of an R9 290, plus 1 ms. We know for a fact that Rx 480 is better than R9 290.


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Why is the fact that most games will be upscaled on the PS4p an issue? Most media outlets were very impressed with the results.
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Why is the fact that most games will be upscaled on the PS4p an issue? Most media outlets were very impressed with the results.

Because they say "Ooga Booga ITS 4K OMG HERE'S OUR 4K PS4 DON'T YOU WANNA PLAY GAMES IN 4K IT'S FREAKIN 4K!" in their marketing. Im paraphrasing of course
    
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Because they say "Ooga Booga ITS 4K OMG HERE'S OUR 4K PS4 DON'T YOU WANNA PLAY GAMES IN 4K IT'S FREAKIN 4K!" in their marketing. Im paraphrasing of course

But it IS 4k capable. So,me games will be native 4k. Most not, but some will. They are not being coy about anything. If you watched their PS4p reveal, you would know. There are no lies in their pr, afaik. So I ask again, what is the issue?
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But it IS 4k capable. So,me games will be native 4k. Most not, but some will. They are not being coy about anything. If you watched their PS4p reveal, you would know. There are no lies in their pr, afaik. So I ask again, what is the issue?


Only games of a graphical fidelity lower than CS:GO or some Wii U titles will be able to be 4k native. The average consumer will be expecting something like 4k Fallout 4, GTAV, witcher 3, Battlefield, etc

And the PS4Pro is going to struggle to even pull that off at 1440p.

Of course you can play 4k angry birds on it tongue.gif
    
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Only games of a graphical fidelity lower than CS:GO or some Wii U titles will be able to be 4k native. The average consumer will be expecting something like 4k Fallout 4, GTAV, witcher 3, Battlefield, etc

And the PS4Pro is going to struggle to even pull that off at 1440p.

Of course you can play 4k angry birds on it tongue.gif

TLOU has lower graphical fidelity than CS:GO?
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There is no way TLOU is going to be native 4k, if so, console developers have signed a deal with the devil to get insane performance out of ridiculously underpowered hardware, and they need to start using that talent on PC.

I know most PC titles are horribly optimized, but with my 18 year experience in building computers, nothing I have ever seen or experienced has shown me that the Crappy CPU and the 470 equivalent in the PS4Pro will be able to handle TLOU anywhere near 4k even if "Settings" were super low.

And all it would take is one thing to convince me. If someone were to program intensely just as a proof of concept for a preset setup, and make something amazing happen, I could believe it.

If someone was like "Just to show it is possible, we programmed for this exact XFX 470 video card with this exact mobo and 4gb ram and psu with a Phenom 955 and it doesnt work on anything else, but you can do 4k 60fps GTAV Ultra with it."

If that were to happen I could believe this more.
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Only games of a graphical fidelity lower than CS:GO or some Wii U titles will be able to be 4k native. The average consumer will be expecting something like 4k Fallout 4, GTAV, witcher 3, Battlefield, etc

And the PS4Pro is going to struggle to even pull that off at 1440p.

Of course you can play 4k angry birds on it tongue.gif

1.) TLoU / Skyrim remasters are native 4k. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1289840

2.) 1440p is the "native" res of the PS4 pro it either downsamples or up scales from there.
 
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1.) TLoU / Skyrim remasters are native 4k. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1289840

2.) 1440p is the "native" res of the PS4 pro it either downsamples or up scales from there.


Im taking that with a salt mine, I would be extremely floored if the hardware in a PS4 could pull off 60fps TLOU 4K, but crazier things have happened. I won't believe it until someone actually captures a frame and analyzes individual pixels and makes sure it isn't upscaled.
    
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Im taking that with a salt mine, I would be extremely floored if the hardware in a PS4 could pull off 60fps TLOU 4K, but crazier things have happened. I won't believe it until someone actually captures a frame and analyzes individual pixels and makes sure it isn't upscaled.

It's 30fps as far as I know.

As much as I love the PS4 I approach it cautiously.
 
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