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I would give the computer a nice cleaning, do an inspection and re-seat everything. Start off working with a clean slate and go from there. After though use some monitoring tools to see if your GPU or CPU are being heavily over used, and if no weird results from that then definitely try a different type of PSU and see if that helps anything. THEN if nothing there take a look at some drivers and see if anything can be updated. Basically just try to rule our the simplest of things first and work from there, may take some steps though.
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Things to buy:
MOTHERBOARD

RAM

POWERSUPPLY





MOTHERBOARD- find a good brand. Find one that has a heatsink above the VRM's

RAM - any dual channel kit (2 or 4 sticks). shoot for 1600 at CL8 or CL9

PSU - any brand name real unit. EVGA has lower end models (430watts or 500 watts) that are rebranded seasonics, and they have a great warranty


ULTIMATELY, your processor is the best thing of your setup, and will continue to be a strong performer for a couple more years. But it needs clean power, and a good motherboard to get the benefits it offers
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1st: 4GB of RAM are not really enough. Your CPU can take 1600Mhz DDR3 with no issues. Always go for DUAL CHANNEL (2x4), not for single sticks.

2nd: Your motherboard is 4+2, its really bad for OC. Hell, the MB is supporting up to 125W TDP CPU's, and yours is that much exactly. YOu are probably getting thermal throttling from the VRM's.

3rd: You would be 95% GPU bottlenecked before CPU bottlenecked. I am running a 960T, unlocked to x6 1600T paired with a R9 290.

PS: Your PSU is low quality. If you have it from 2-3+ years, open it and see if any of the capacitors have swelled up.
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4+2 phase setup doesnt automatically mean its a bad power setup

Its just that his motherboard itself is not strong at all. its an early AM3 board, so it generally wasnt even made with intentions of pushing a hungry 6 core
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4+2 phase setup doesnt automatically mean its a bad power setup

Its just that his motherboard itself is not strong at all. its an early AM3 board, so it generally wasnt even made with intentions of pushing a hungry 6 core

No 4+2 is ever made for pushing a 6-core smile.gif
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4+2 phase setup doesnt automatically mean its a bad power setup

Its just that his motherboard itself is not strong at all. its an early AM3 board, so it generally wasnt even made with intentions of pushing a hungry 6 core

No 4+2 is ever made for pushing a 6-core smile.gif

my secondary rig is based on an MSI 890FXA-GD70

that board is a 4+1 design and does a fantastic and stable job of grilling my 6 core 1035T beyond 4GHz and beyond 1.47 volts.

VRM temps stay under 65*C at all times, even after very long stability testing
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my secondary rig is based on an MSI 890FXA-GD70

that board is a 4+1 design and does a fantastic and stable job of grilling my 6 core 1035T beyond 4GHz and beyond 1.47 volts.

VRM temps stay under 65*C at all times, even after very long stability testing

I'm happy for you, that doesn't change much though smile.gif

Also, have you checked for throttling?
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my secondary rig is based on an MSI 890FXA-GD70

that board is a 4+1 design and does a fantastic and stable job of grilling my 6 core 1035T beyond 4GHz and beyond 1.47 volts.

VRM temps stay under 65*C at all times, even after very long stability testing

I'm happy for you, that doesn't change much though smile.gif

Also, have you checked for throttling?

I use HWinfo64 and graph all the clocks and temperatures. No signs of throttling ever noticed. I found out when I got the board that the 65 was what I should have got, and keep a watchful eye.

It seems the people going crazy with 8 cores and 6 cores are what caused failures. Like having the LLC maxed out and causing massive spikes. Heck, some 95watt quads have been source of failure
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I use HWinfo64 and graph all the clocks and temperatures. No signs of throttling ever noticed. I found out when I got the board that the 65 was what I should have got, and keep a watchful eye.

It seems the people going crazy with 8 cores and 6 cores are what caused failures. Like having the LLC maxed out and causing massive spikes. Heck, some 95watt quads have been source of failure

Have you been monitoring usage though? One type of throttling is where frequency stays high but usage drops periodically to compensate. Check it out, doesn't hurt to be sure smile.gif
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I use HWinfo64 and graph all the clocks and temperatures. No signs of throttling ever noticed. I found out when I got the board that the 65 was what I should have got, and keep a watchful eye.

It seems the people going crazy with 8 cores and 6 cores are what caused failures. Like having the LLC maxed out and causing massive spikes. Heck, some 95watt quads have been source of failure

Have you been monitoring usage though? One type of throttling is where frequency stays high but usage drops periodically to compensate. Check it out, doesn't hurt to be sure smile.gif

Thuban throttles via voltage and frequency. Not per-core usage. and no, never saw any stutter. Much more fluid of an experience, a 1035T at 4GHz versus my fx4300 even at 4.7GHz
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