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All I want to know is why MS is always the target here. As far as I'm aware they are just the newest kid on the block - this is an issue with every single major company and has been for quite some time. Search engines, phone's, other OS's as well, yet Windows 10 seems to be the target 99.9% of the time only because it's trendy and was blatantly obvious about it.

Sorry guys, hate to break it to you all but those of us wise enough to see this avalanche happening years ago (and were told to get our tin foil hats) are not surprised and gave up at this point. I treat all of my personal devices with a network connection as completely recorded and watched devices, and if you want to even remotely remain having a sense of privacy, disconnect. That is all. The plethora of average joe idiots has already made this happen - this will not go away and it will only get worse from here on out.

Your average citizen will remain too busy posting pictures to facebook, instagram, twitter, whatever the crap app of the day is in their generic materialistic life and will continue to be completely ignorant of the fact that everything online is essentially watched over / combed through eventually if there is even a shred of interest in you. They will be spoon fed news about terrorism this, terrorism that as more and more privacy and freedoms are removed from daily lives. I need only look at the UK's camera situation as assurance of the footsteps the US will eventually follow.

Windows 10 is the least of the concerns for all those that claim to care so much for privacy. Use an alternative or stick to an older version of Windows. But please realize, those are far from secure or private either, regardless of what you believe.


They don't know or refuse to know that more people use an iPhone than a windows terminal these days. I have classes of students I had to teach to use Windows because they had NEVER actually sat down at a computer that used Windows. Windows might own a marketshare of it's market but ITS market is dying. The mobile market has been where it's at for years.


The other irony is someone quoting about petro dollars and wars in Iraq. I teach Economics Sir. The U.S. and it's oil companies never received a dollar of income or a barrel of oil from the Iraq invasion. IF you knew a damn thing about the oil markets you'd know that instead of living in a tinfoil house. It actually has devastated U.S. based oil companies because the Iraqis and Saudis have decided to try and push us out of the market by keeping the price of oil artificially low. They figure that shale oil and fracking can't continue forever at 30-45 dollar a barrel oil.

Haliburton did make a lot of money off of contracting NOT oil (and so did some other contracting companies) but I hope it was worth it because it has devastated them long term because the overseas oil companies in the middle east dropped the price so low that Hali had to lay off about 18% of their Global work force in the past 3 years.


BACK TO THE TOPIC.. APPL and GOOG have so much more metadata on everyone it's not even funny.. MSFT can add almost nothing that they don't already have. Anyone waving a privacy banner missed the train about 10 years ago. When I saw the game was over I shook my head and moved on.
 
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BACK TO THE TOPIC.. APPL and GOOG have so much more metadata on everyone it's not even funny.. MSFT can add almost nothing that they don't already have. Anyone waving a privacy banner missed the train about 10 years ago. When I saw the game was over I shook my head and moved on.
I cant say anything about apple other than that i wont buy from them anything, its just basically an overpriced and over hyped junk. As for MS i do not like the thought that they basically they can look through all my stuff without my consent, if this is "nothing" then you are incredibly ignorant. And dont you dare come with the "there is nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide" excuse because everyone have plenty things to hide from these corps. As for google and android, well i handle them as a "public" space so only the absolute minimum is stored on them(basically phone numbers and my "public" email addresses).
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I interpreted the article a little differently. In reference to this statement...

" Since we use multiple apps for different purposes, but to complete one task, Microsoft plans to let these apps communicate with each other, using a mediating module."

The OS (W10) will be data mining the activities of third party apps. The OS is frisking them. It extends across user devices. That's going too far for an OS. There also has to be some level of app performance degradation during this exploit.

I see this as an assault on developers as much as an invasion of user privacy.
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There also has to be some level of app performance degradation during this exploit.
One would think that if one were overestimating just how invasive this data mining is.
    
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That isn't true what basic function requires terminal?

Most people use computers exclusively for browsing the internet,and playing basic games.Most linux distros do this perfectly.If they don't,they weren't made to.Clicking a desktop icon is not hard.

There is also a ton of free software that provides the functions of whatever else you might want to do with a computer.

The issue with linux is you will have a hard time running programs made for windows,or your particular favorite software like popular games.

There is a ton of linux equivalent software with the same functionality as windows software and it's all just as easy to use.

Open office for instance.Hardware monitoring,benchmarking,photo and video editing etc.

Also updates and installing software is all done with an easy gui interface.


installing pretty much anything requires dozens of terminal commands for it to actually work and this was on mint 18.
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How long has it been since you used linux? Or have you ever. I use Gentoo, which is a more terminal based distro and I only use the terminal because I want to, not because I have to. And what's so bad about using a terminal?
Linux doesn't suck, commercial support for linux is what sucks.

I am exclusively using linux, don't even have windows installed.



a few weeks. I had it on my laptop because windows 10 is too resource intensive for it. It was linux Mint 18 so its fairly new. Using terminal is a pain in the ass, You have to google like 200 commands because half of them don't work anymore or your version blocks it, I want an OS that is easy to use. I dont have time to enter 5000 commands to install 1 piece of software then another 10,000 more to use it properly.


Just too much work involved to use linux on a daily basis.
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installing pretty much anything requires dozens of terminal commands for it to actually work and this was on mint 18.
a few weeks. I had it on my laptop because windows 10 is too resource intensive for it. It was linux Mint 18 so its fairly new. Using terminal is a pain in the ass, You have to google like 200 commands because half of them don't work anymore or your version blocks it, I want an OS that is easy to use. I dont have time to enter 5000 commands to install 1 piece of software then another 10,000 more to use it properly.


Just too much work involved to use linux on a daily basis.

Then go Ubuntu. Lol.
    
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Then go Ubuntu. Lol.

If I'm going to be on a more resource heavy "casual friendly" OS I'm still going to take Windows over Ubuntu any day of the week. Ubuntu is hardly a private OS.
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Then go Ubuntu. Lol.

Ubuntu is a nightmare on my older dell laptop. Half the components dont work "without" you guessed it, like 500 terminal commands each boot
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installing pretty much anything requires dozens of terminal commands for it to actually work and this was on mint 18.
a few weeks. I had it on my laptop because windows 10 is too resource intensive for it. It was linux Mint 18 so its fairly new. Using terminal is a pain in the ass, You have to google like 200 commands because half of them don't work anymore or your version blocks it, I want an OS that is easy to use. I dont have time to enter 5000 commands to install 1 piece of software then another 10,000 more to use it properly.


Just too much work involved to use linux on a daily basis.

Mint has a package manager, why would you have to use 5000 commands to install software, when you only have to click on it.
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