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The main reason to wait until after Christmas is to let Intel launch Kabylake and let AMD launch Summit Ridge. Prices on Skylake should come down if that's still what you want.

I do not recommend a 6600k; get a 6700k if you are serious about DX12/Vulkan performance at all.

Also, what GPU do you run?

Waiting for the next upgrade is one thing if you want that upgrade. Waiting because you think intel will drop the price of their last gen stuff is another. They're a little too stingy for that sadly.
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Most motherboard factory overvolt to 1.4 volts or so and some motherboards run hotter than others. You have a decent motherboard so most likely the 6870 is where most of your heat is coming from. You could undervolt the 8350 to 1.3 or maybe less and not lose any performance or it should overclock to 4.5 ghz @ 1.4 vcore.

But most of your heat is coming from the GPU. You would be better served to buy an AMD 480 and have much better performance with much less heat going into your room. At one time I was running an 8350 @ 4.5 ghz along with x2-6970s and was seeing over 700 watts being pulled from the wall. Now I am running an 8370 @ 5 ghz @ 1.512 vcore and a power hungry 290X and am seeing power draws of around 530 watts from the wall. The 480 performs as well as the 290X and is much much more energy efficient.

Get a 480 now and enjoy the cooler room and then make your decision on where to go next.
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Side grade because in single core i5 is 5-10% faster in poorly optimized programs but in multicore its slower rolleyes.gif

Yeah skylake is miles better than ivy and not 5-10% steps like intel always make rolleyes.gif
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Most motherboard factory overvolt to 1.4 volts or so and some motherboards run hotter than others. You have a decent motherboard so most likely the 6870 is where most of your heat is coming from. You could undervolt the 8350 to 1.3 or maybe less and not lose any performance or it should overclock to 4.5 ghz @ 1.4 vcore.

But most of your heat is coming from the GPU. You would be better served to buy an AMD 480 and have much better performance with much less heat going into your room. At one time I was running an 8350 @ 4.5 ghz along with x2-6970s and was seeing over 700 watts being pulled from the wall. Now I am running an 8370 @ 5 ghz @ 1.512 vcore and a power hungry 290X and am seeing power draws of around 530 watts from the wall. The 480 performs as well as the 290X and is much much more energy efficient.

Get a 480 now and enjoy the cooler room and then make your decision on where to go next.

"But most of your heat is coming from the GPU. You would be better served to buy an AMD 480 and have much better performance with much less heat going into your room"

gotta be careful with statements like this
HD 6870 has a TDP of about 151
RX 480 has a TDP of about 150

their coolers are designed to dissipate similar amounts of energy, but obviously the RX 480 is doing a considerable better job than HD 6870 though they are using roughly the same amount of energy

Contrast that to something like R9 290x with a TDP of 290w.. lol, RX 480 performs better then the 290x but not to such a large degree as compared to the HD 6870, but it's out putting considerably less energy then the 290x.

like R9 290x is at 85c
RX 480 is at 85c

the only thing that means is the coolers are keeping it within a thermal envelope, because both coolers are rated considerably different for the GPU's they need to cool, the energy they consume and output are different compared to RX 480 and HD 6870 which are rated similarly
post #45 of 89
If he is running it at stock then yes most of his heat is coming from the GPU. The FX is very energy efficient at low clocks. I can get mine to run stable at 4.3 ghz @ 1.284 vcore stable. That is intel voltage.



My 6970s pulled a ton of watts from the wall and made a lot of heat. I replaced them with a 280X and got better frame rates and much lower heat output. The 290X brought a lot of the heat back but I'm still seeing almost 200 watts less getting pulled from the wall.

I still say start with a new video card.
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I am running an AMD Radeon HD 6870 atm. this does get up to 50 degree C.
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I am looking for a bit snappier performance than what I currently have

Since it appears no one else has looked at it, is this your sig rig with the WD platter drive? An SSD would be a cheap upgrade that would make your system drastically 'snappier' if done right. I have some absolute garbage SSD's I bought for pennies last year that have served me well and amazing speed compared to booting off old platter drives. The prices keep dropping and I am sure with holiday sales not too far away that you could get one big enough for your OS plus a few games for very little cash.

What's more is that it can be transfered to a new rig if you upgrade afterwards. If it was me, I would probably wait on the CPU upgrade and look into a better video card and some method of increasing the airflow in and out of the room. Either adding vents wherever/however needed to create airflow or an air duct booster or the previously mentioned cooling loop with remote radiators would all be viable methods of reducing room temps.
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I have a ssd now Samsung Evo 850. the system is snappy. I am just looking to lower my heat output and increase performance overall.
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I am looking for a bit snappier performance than what I currently have
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the system is snappy.

It might not be a bad idea to go over your sig rig when asking for help thumb.gif
post #50 of 89

Wrong section, you should be posting in the Intel CPU section.

 

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An FX 8350 is equivalent to an i5 3570K. Moving to anything 22nm from intel, you would have a cooler running cpu. In terms of performance though, if you just browsing the internet, youll see no difference. Even gaming-wise, an i5 is still adequate. If you were doing heavy workstation tasks, i can see getting a new i7 chip.

*If you are looking for very low wattage cpus, then youre looking the kaby lake/ summit ridge lineup. http://www.techworm.net/2016/08/intels-i7-kaby-lake-processors-powerful-wont-need-graphics-card.html

No it's not. Int he latest games the 8350 comes very close and even matches the 4770/4790.

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