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Would moving to the new generation Intel CPU's provide much better performance over the 8350?

Depending on tasks, yes.

Most modern i7s and the faster i5s will be all-round faster.
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would the temps be lower as well?

Temperature? Maybe.

Total heat output? Definitely.
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Should I stick with the Noctua DH 15 or go to water cooling?

NH-D15 is plenty capable of handling a mainstream Intel part...the limiting factor will likely be getting heat to the cooler, not the cooler itself.
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and in terms of overall heat generation. If I leave the 6600k stock clock will it still run a lot cooler than my FX 8350 ?

Yes.

However, do note that CPU is likely only a fraction of total system power/heat.
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are the next processors from Intel going to be a lot better than the current skylake ?

Kaby Lake will likely clock higher and some errata that exists in Skylake will likely be fixed, but there will be very few other tweaks to the processors.
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The core temp, is read by a CPU registry and it's a non Celcius, arbitrary scale. But it does become accurately translated, when the result is above 40C, if you believe anything in the internet ever since Phenom or AMD Ovedrive.
Then there is the thermal diode, which gives the CPU temp (which is the digital sensor and it reads in C directly).

So the digital sensor, does read a physical temperature, directly in C and thus is always accurate. Another story is the registry that reads tctl scale.

Neither sensor type reads an absolute temperature. Any readings are dependent on what they are calibrated to report as implied by the definition of Tcontrol and the function of the diode offset.

Regardless of what is supposedly reported, it's not possible to directly compare AMD and Intel CPU temperatures without external, physical, thermal probes.
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If you going to spend that much on a RX480, you better off with GTX1060. Either of these are good.
http://www.ncix.com/detail/msi-geforce-gtx-1060-armor-17-135021.htm
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX63115

Keep in mind it's Canadian money...which is different right?
Those are Canadian companies.


There is no more reason to discuss about CPU temps and changing to Intel anymore. So only discuss about upgrading GPU instead.
    
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If you going to spend that much on a RX480, you better off with GTX1060. Either of these are good.
http://www.ncix.com/detail/msi-geforce-gtx-1060-armor-17-135021.htm
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX63115

By this time next year the 480 will be rivaling the 1070 so he is definitely better off with the 480.

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By this time next year the 480 will be rivaling the 1070 so he is definitely better off with the 480.

How is a 480 going to magically get 50% faster in a year>?

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I'm not sure about rivaling a 1070, but it has been repeatedly shown that AMD cards get faster with time due to continued driver improvement where Nvidia stops supporting their older cards much faster.
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I'm not sure about rivaling a 1070, but it has been repeatedly shown that AMD cards get faster with time due to continued driver improvement where Nvidia stops supporting their older cards much faster.

Like the fury X right?  But what gains did it get from release to now? Like 10-15%?  Not sure on the exact gains but like you said the drivers over time did make it faster. 

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Like the 7970 vs 680
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orkin, I would agree on upgrading the 6870. Jeez, that's what I had in 2011.

If you can swing it, upgrade to Intel, but also get a new graphics card (even an RX 460 would probably be better than a 6870).

what version of the RX 460 would you recommend?

I usually play world of Warcraft, Battle Field 4, Heroes of the storm, Diablo 3, Overwatch etc.

I'd upgrade the GPU to the 970/480 level overclock the FX to 4.5 ghz and bide my time until the new cpu's come out. Just my opinion fwiw.

When coupled with a gpu of that performance level , there are very few games that can't be made to maintain framerates above humans ability to recognize them. Of the games that it can't , neither will an Intel cpu, the problem is mostly the software.



You may or may not find useful information here: http://www.overclock.net/t/1534128/vishera-vs-devils-canyon-a-casual-comparison-by-an-average-user

EDIT: http://slickdeals.net/f/9139127-new-jet-customers-msi-radeon-rx-480-gaming-x-8g-graphics-card-230-or-less-after-20-rebate-free-s-h

Seems like a good deal on a good card
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Oh no doubt, but saving $20 on a $50 part is one thing. Saving $20 on a $340 part is another. Devils Canyon is over 2 years old and is still at full price. $340 and $240 at the egg in the states anyway. If you can find a good deal on a part that suits you, grab it. Especially if interested in an intel CPU solution.

This is obviously my opinion and can only go as far as the country I live in of course.

The 4790k has been as low as $290 retail. It came back up once Intel cut off new supplies and is sustained off of LGA1150 owners doing upgrades from slower chips. Yeah Intel chips have held their value pretty well from Sandy Bridge on up, but they do have their dips. The markets will have their way.

And that's just the CPU scene, boards also go down in price at certain intervals. Kabylake should bring with it the 2xx-series chipsets if I recall correctly, which should undermine Z170 prices at some point.
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Is this a good deal on SSD?
http://www.ncix.com/detail/sandisk-ssd-plus-480gb-a1-126051.htm

Good Quality?
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