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i don't mind data caps, what i do mind about is that they throttle the line after hitting that data cap.

i'd prefer it if they do it flexibly, e.g. $50 300GB + $20 100GB extensions.
which means if you use less than 300GB you pay $50, but if you exceed the 300GB cap you pay extra $20 for every extensions.
post #152 of 155
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As I said earlier, they absolutely have the right to impose data caps, but not the justification. Which means we can fairly criticize them.

Why are you so eager to defend them?

I'm not defending anybody, I'm just saying that they have every right to impose data caps, which you have agreed with. I agreed with you that their attempt to defend the caps was flawed in its premise and further stated that IMO no explanation of the caps was necessary. If they really believe the caps are hurting them in terms of their customer base then they should eliminate them, not come up with BS excuses on why they have to impose them. We are apparently in agreement... thumb.gif
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I'm not defending anybody, I'm just saying that they have every right to impose data caps, which you have agreed with. I agreed with you that their attempt to defend the caps was flawed in its premise and further stated that IMO no explanation of the caps was necessary. If they really believe the caps are hurting them in terms of their customer base then they should eliminate them, not come up with BS excuses on why they have to impose them. We are apparently in agreement... thumb.gif

how bout good old fashioned greed?
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"The cost of increasing [broadband] capacity has declined much faster than the increase in data traffic," says Dane Jasper, CEO of Sonic, an independent ISP based in Santa Rosa, Calif.

Jasper, of course, has reason to challenge his much larger rivals. However, he also backed up his argument with real numbers. A few years ago Sonic (formerly Sonic.net) spent about 20 percent of its revenue on basic infrastructure. Since then, the cost of routers, switching equipment and other related gear declined so much that Jasper says the company's infrastructure costs are now only a bit more than 1.5 percent of its revenue.

For this reason, Sonic has no plans to impose data caps, according to Jasper.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160603/06530234613/broadband-ceos-admit-usage-caps-are-nothing-more-than-toll-uncompetitive-markets.shtml
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"The cost of increasing [broadband] capacity has declined much faster than the increase in data traffic," says Dane Jasper, CEO of Sonic, an independent ISP based in Santa Rosa, Calif.

Jasper, of course, has reason to challenge his much larger rivals. However, he also backed up his argument with real numbers. A few years ago Sonic (formerly Sonic.net) spent about 20 percent of its revenue on basic infrastructure. Since then, the cost of routers, switching equipment and other related gear declined so much that Jasper says the company's infrastructure costs are now only a bit more than 1.5 percent of its revenue.

For this reason, Sonic has no plans to impose data caps, according to Jasper.
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160603/06530234613/broadband-ceos-admit-usage-caps-are-nothing-more-than-toll-uncompetitive-markets.shtml

this is true, back then high-tier Gigabit switches and routers costs multiple thousands of dollars, now a days you can get one for less than $1000.
Edited by epic1337 - 10/2/16 at 7:45pm
post #155 of 155
This is a bit weird. In my country we have had data caps since the internet has been around. Now we are moving away from data caps, or at least having the option from most ISPs to select an unlimited plan. Usually at a cost of around $65 usd per month for speeds of about 15Mbps or 1800 kilobytes. .
Edited by Mickeymouse1 - 10/3/16 at 2:36am
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