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WELL! Ill Be! Got the TV.

Very Impressed with the Packaging, being that I purchased it online and was shipped to me. Was nervous, but the box was in great shape.

It was bubblewrapped in the main box, then the TV box you would buy at the store is inside the bubble wrap.



Perfect Shape Inside.

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Then It has on top inside the box when you first open it



And then all of the excessories, such as the remote



And the stand, with the powercable, and Uconnect (A single cable that everything plugs into: HDMI ports)






And a shot of the TV on. I will take more pictures or somehow try and explain the tv brightness, contrast, etc when I have more time. Was just happy to get it in a couple days after ordering.




Sorry if this shot was a little crooked



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looks good man. I am in the market for a TV soon as well ( i hate spending money most days but need to upgrade the one i have) That one looks pretty slick with good specs. looking forward to an opinion about it and experience you have with it.
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That's a lot of interesting information, thank you. What would your recommendation be for a large display to be used as a PC monitor? I've looked into 32\34in 4k monitors but it seems like that wouldn't be enough of an upgrade coming from 27in 1440p @120hz. I'm looking for more of an upgrade than going from 24in 1920x1200 @60hz to my current setup. I was also looking at the curved version of this the UN49KS8500.

The Sony X800D series displays (Rtings review) are the only affordable sub 50" 4K TV's which aren't PWM using faux 4K displays unlike almost everything else. The KS8500 has mediocre color presets with completely skewed gamma compared to the KS800 and Sony, and both Samsung's use motion clarity ruining PWM (example), and have slower pixel response times vs Sony. I prefer the Samsung's glossy screen over the Sony's semi-glossy coating, and both the KS800 and X800D have excellent color presets, but I won't encourage others to buy faux 4K TV's with PWM from companies like Samsung who won't spend the extra dollar on direct current back-lighting.
Edited by MenacingTuba - 9/28/16 at 11:20pm
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The Sony X800D series displays (Rtings review) are the only affordable sub 50" 4K TV's which aren't PWM using faux 4K displays unlike almost everything else. The KS8500 has mediocre color presets with completely skewed gamma compared to the KS800 and Sony, and both Samsung's use motion clarity ruining PWM (example), and have slower pixel response times vs Sony. I prefer the Samsung's glossy screen over the Sony's semi-glossy coating, and both the KS800 and X800D have excellent color presets, but I won't encourage others to buy faux 4K TV's with PWM from companies like Samsung who won't spend the extra dollar on direct current back-lighting.

Menacing, what is your opinion on the LG oleds (C6/B6) as a monitor? I don't play actiony games (RPGs mainly), and I'm ok with the 55" size since I will mount it. I am considering the X800D and KS8000 as alternatives, but may just fork over the cash for the LG. I do watch all my movies/TVshows on my current monitor, so the image quality of the LG is tempting. I also want a screen that is much larger than my current 27" Eizo.

I've read all the reviews and checked out Hardforum and AVSforum, but just curious of your opinion.
Edited by csbear - 9/29/16 at 6:21am
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The Sony X800D series displays (Rtings review) are the only affordable sub 50" 4K TV's which aren't PWM using faux 4K displays unlike almost everything else. The KS8500 has mediocre color presets with completely skewed gamma compared to the KS800 and Sony, and both Samsung's use motion clarity ruining PWM (example), and have slower pixel response times vs Sony. I prefer the Samsung's glossy screen over the Sony's semi-glossy coating, and both the KS800 and X800D have excellent color presets, but I won't encourage others to buy faux 4K TV's with PWM from companies like Samsung who won't spend the extra dollar on direct current back-lighting.

The X800D was initially on my list because of the good reviews it had with motion clarity but a lot users(hard forum, internet, etc...) said they had ended up returning it and going with the KS8000\KS8500 because the black levels were so crap on the Sony and were really happy with the Samsung. Honestly I think I just need to see them in person at this point to make a proper decision.
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The X800D was initially on my list because of the good reviews it had with motion clarity but a lot users(hard forum, internet, etc...) said they had ended up returning it and going with the KS8000\KS8500 because the black levels were so crap on the Sony and were really happy with the Samsung. Honestly I think I just need to see them in person at this point to make a proper decision.

I saw the X800D and the S8000 on Display at BestBuy. I found the colours and clarity better on the 8000 + The actual design of the Tv Was significantly better. Thin casing, Very small footprint.

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The X800D was initially on my list because of the good reviews it had with motion clarity but a lot users(hard forum, internet, etc...) said they had ended up returning it and going with the KS8000\KS8500 because the black levels were so crap on the Sony and were really happy with the Samsung. Honestly I think I just need to see them in person at this point to make a proper decision.

We just bought our first 4k TV tonight. We were undecided between the ks8000 and x850d. They were both on display at Best Buy, and we ended up getting the x850d, as in the end it was 100 less. I have yet to game on it, but I will this weekend. We did put in a 4k bluray (Warcraft) and both of us commented on how awesome it looked. Great black levels! Absolutely no light bleed, that we noticed.
Edited by kayan - 9/29/16 at 7:23pm
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Menacing, what is your opinion on the LG oleds (C6/B6) as a monitor? I don't play actiony games (RPGs mainly), and I'm ok with the 55" size since I will mount it. I am considering the X800D and KS8000 as alternatives, but may just fork over the cash for the LG. I do watch all my movies/TVshows on my current monitor, so the image quality of the LG is tempting. I also want a screen that is much larger than my current 27" Eizo.

I've read all the reviews and checked out Hardforum and AVSforum, but just curious of your opinion.

Both LG's are PWM/Flicker Free, destroy all LCD's image quality wise and support 4:4:4, but the B6 has very high input lag (70ms which is double that of Samsung & Sony's 4:4:4 lag) and inferior HDR support. Like displays which use PWM, I would not buy the B6 on principle since it has unstable and high input lag which makes mouse use floaty and laggy feeling. The E6 also offers better HDR support than the B6

http://ca.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/e6
http://ca.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/b6
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The X800D was initially on my list because of the good reviews it had with motion clarity but a lot users(hard forum, internet, etc...) said they had ended up returning it and going with the KS8000\KS8500 because the black levels were so crap on the Sony and were really happy with the Samsung. Honestly I think I just need to see them in person at this point to make a proper decision.

Poor black depth from Sony the X800D is either from panel lottery, user error (using the wrong HDMI Black Level setting) or user stupidity (using it in the dark with the brightness cranked; no LCD has high enough static contrast to display black as black instead of greyish when outputting 300cdm/2 brightness) since the panel has >3,500:1 contrast..

Glossy screens like the KS800 look better in stores versus the X800D since it's semi-glossy coating turns reflections caused by the store lights into white haze and reduces color vibrancy. When used as intended with a biased light in an otherwise light-less room the differences become minute.

Left Glossy vs Semi-Glossy vs Plasma Deposition Coating: Make sure to view the full screen version (link) in another window Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Little update from last night.

Watched 2 shows on the KS8000.

Used HBO Go through the PS4 to watch ROME.

Had the TV set on Game Mode: While watching Rome, I switched Game Mode off and Set HDR on and Immediately starting to see Judder.
I had to set all of the Inputs (HDMI) to have "HDMI UHD Colour" Which allows the full bandwidth of HDMI 2.0 to the TV from the Source. This is not set by default.

In the write up from Rtings.com about the KS8000 they say to remove the judder, you set AUTO MOTION to CUSTOM, then take both of the sliders down to 0. This removes the judder and won't initiate the SOE effect.

After Watching ROME on Game mode (The Episode Finished) we then watched an Episode of Walking Dead. I did the same test as turning Game Mode off and Running HDR with the show. I saw no judder nor did I change any other settings previously mentioned by RTings.

The HDR really was crystal clear, the stream I checked from Netflix was still in 1080p 60hz.

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Qnix 2710 Perfect Pixel 1440p  EVGA 1300 G2 CaseLabs SMA8 Darkside 12" Led Lighting  
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i7 7700k Asus Strix Z270i Gaming GALAX 980TI HOF Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4 2400  
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Crucial 512 SSD EK Supremacy EVO White Bitspower 150ml Reservoir POM White x 2 Swiftech 18w DDC x 2 
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Bitspower 980ti HOF Waterblock (Clear)  EK SE 240mm Slim Radiator EK XE 240mm Radiator x 2 EK DDC Plexi top x 2  
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Windows 7 Professional NEX Moba White Pro EVGA 650 G2 Caselabs S3 
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I7 5930K @ 4.5Ghz Asus Rampage V  GTX 980  GTX 980 
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Corsair Dominator Platinum 2666mhz DDR4 4 Gb Q... Dominator Light Bar Kits x 2 Crucial 240 SSD  Seagate 7200 Rpm Baracuda 
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Seagate 7200 Rpm Baracuda Crucial M500 512 SSD Crucial M500 480 SSD EK 480mm Coolstream XTX x 2 
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Tons of Fittings Supremacy Evo Copper EK  XSPC 240mm Radiator V3 x 2 Swiftech MCP35X PMW Pump DDC x 2 
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EK Rampage V Mosfet WaterBlock Original CSQ NB Eloops B12 - 2 1300rpm  Phobia 8way 4pin Fan Controller x 2 Ek Single Link CSQ Bridge x 2 
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Bitspower Z Tank (Clear) 250mm x 2 980 WaterBlocks x 2 Ek DDC Pump Top (Acrylic) x 2 Primochill 3/8" x 1/2" OD Clear Tubing 
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Bitspower 12mm Acyrlic Tubing 19" x 4  XSPC 3/8" x 1/2" Compression Fittings x 12 Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit Crossover 324K 
MonitorPowerCaseOther
Qnix 2710 Perfect Pixel 1440p  EVGA 1300 G2 CaseLabs SMA8 Darkside 12" Led Lighting  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 7700k Asus Strix Z270i Gaming GALAX 980TI HOF Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4 2400  
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Crucial 512 SSD EK Supremacy EVO White Bitspower 150ml Reservoir POM White x 2 Swiftech 18w DDC x 2 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Bitspower 980ti HOF Waterblock (Clear)  EK SE 240mm Slim Radiator EK XE 240mm Radiator x 2 EK DDC Plexi top x 2  
OSKeyboardPowerCase
Windows 7 Professional NEX Moba White Pro EVGA 650 G2 Caselabs S3 
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