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post #221 of 1549
Between my 403 vs my DA... The 403 wins in all categories. Plus my DA is crap quality in comfort, material as well as a horribly spongie right click. Go figure. I don't understand how Razer invades people's minds every crap iteration. Even seeing people here that just last week hated everything about razer now they're saying 'oh I might have to get this'. How does Razer do it! They have mind control. Gotta be it.
post #222 of 1549
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Originally Posted by coldc0ffee View Post

Between my 403 vs my DA... The 403 wins in all categories. Plus my DA is crap quality in comfort, material as well as a horribly spongie right click. Go figure. I don't understand how Razer invades people's minds every crap iteration. Even seeing people here that just last week hated everything about razer now they're saying 'oh I might have to get this'. How does Razer do it! They have mind control. Gotta be it.
Seems like every copy of the G403 is different. My G403 has a spongy RMB. I bought (2) G403s (keep the cherry and return the lemon approach) and one of them had a spongy LMB and a tactile RMB (the opposite of the one I decided to keep - smh). So Razer isn't the only mouse manufacturer to dish out mice with questionable QC. The DA may feel like crap quality material-wise, but there's a reason it's been around for so long. I have both the G403 and DA:Chroma - so I have the best of all worlds I guess thumb.gif
post #223 of 1549
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Originally Posted by coldc0ffee View Post

Between my 403 vs my DA... The 403 wins in all categories. Plus my DA is crap quality in comfort, material as well as a horribly spongie right click. Go figure. I don't understand how Razer invades people's minds every crap iteration. Even seeing people here that just last week hated everything about razer now they're saying 'oh I might have to get this'. How does Razer do it! They have mind control. Gotta be it.

I blame razer aesthetics (their mice have that gaming look, according to casuals), plus they actually have top of the line sensors (in DA). And marketingmarketingmarketing.
post #224 of 1549
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Originally Posted by VESPA5 View Post

Seems like every copy of the G403 is different. My G403 has a spongy RMB. I bought (2) G403s (keep the cherry and return the lemon approach) and one of them had a spongy LMB and a tactile RMB (the opposite of the one I decided to keep - smh). So Razer isn't the only mouse manufacturer to dish out mice with questionable QC. The DA may feel like crap quality material-wise, but there's a reason it's been around for so long. I have both the G403 and DA:Chroma - so I have the best of all worlds I guess thumb.gif

The reason it's been around so long is because the older DA models were perfect for their time. It's just people can't come to accept that the new DAs are bad investments because Razer isn't about the customer and their experience anymore; they're about selling you cheap crap and making you sign up to Synapse just to change your settings in "the cloud" so they can get your email and send email blasts to you about their next crappy product.
post #225 of 1549
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Originally Posted by coldc0ffee View Post

Between my 403 vs my DA... The 403 wins in all categories. Plus my DA is crap quality in comfort, material as well as a horribly spongie right click. Go figure. I don't understand how Razer invades people's minds every crap iteration. Even seeing people here that just last week hated everything about razer now they're saying 'oh I might have to get this'. How does Razer do it! They have mind control. Gotta be it.
For me it just DA is the only one with perfect shape and buttons for my hand. But Logitech getting close to what I want with G403 (concave buttons, clean shape, lightweight, lighter click(?), and bigger side buttons), that's why I'm interested in both.

About QC honestly I don't really care because everybody bad anyway.
I've broken every left-click from every mouse that I ever had since 2009 including two DAs (original and black), CoolerMaster, Mionix and two Logitechs (five if my office mouse included), except the current one - a few months old Steelseries.
I've stratched every rubberized skin from them too, if any.

I understand people hate Synapse but I've never have problem with it for years except for registering thingie, so I don't really think much about it.
post #226 of 1549
To be honest the deathadder is my favorite mouse period and I wound up returning it due to poor quality control, but I would bet my last dollar if I found one with no issues I would be using a chroma today. Outside of QC the mouse has a great feel, the lowest LOD, amazing scroll wheel. The actually design of the mouse and sensor is great but QC is where razer loses a lot of its customers. Frankly I am bothered that no mouse has gotten close to the deathadders LOD, the DA can go down to 1mm where the 3366's can only go down to 2mm. This coming from someone with 18.5cm hands that does a hybrid fingertip palm and has used and owned: Rival 300, DA, G502, G403, G303, Finalmouse, FK1, FK1+, EC2-A, EC1-A, ZA-11 and a couple more mice trying to seek out the perfect mouse. The DA was closest to perfect for me but after returning it 5+ times for QC issues I gave up, maybe this iteration will be better in that regard.

EDIT: Also people, PLEASE buy the insurance on mice! 2 years of coverage is something like $7.00 at bestbuy! I was able to return my DA 5 times for a new one and then get a full refund on the last return (including the cost of insurance). It will cover your ass and they swap the product no questions asked!
Edited by Eutheran - 9/29/16 at 11:51am
post #227 of 1549
I liked my DA when I had it - even though it caused some cramp, but as soon as they started synapse that killed my first DA with a firmware update - then my next DA the LMB/RMB snapped off in 1 year and I haven't looked at razer since
post #228 of 1549
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Originally Posted by Eutheran View Post

To be honest the deathadder is my favorite mouse period and I wound up returning it due to poor quality control, but I would bet my last dollar if I found one with no issues I would be using a chroma today. Outside of QC the mouse has a great feel, the lowest LOD, amazing scroll wheel. The actually design of the mouse and sensor is great but QC is where razer loses a lot of its customers. Frankly I am bothered that no mouse has gotten close to the deathadders LOD, the DA can go down to 1mm where the 3366's can only go down to 2mm. This coming from someone with 18.5cm hands that does a hybrid fingertip palm and has used and owned: Rival 300, DA, G502, G403, G303, Finalmouse, FK1, FK1+, EC2-A, EC1-A, ZA-11 and a couple more mice trying to seek out the perfect mouse. The DA was closest to perfect for me but after returning it 5+ times for QC issues I gave up, maybe this iteration will be better in that regard.

EDIT: Also people, PLEASE buy the insurance on mice! 2 years of coverage is something like $7.00 at bestbuy! I was able to return my DA 5 times for a new one and then get a full refund on the last return (including the cost of insurance). It will cover your ass and they swap the product no questions asked!

What? The settings aren't how far you actually lift the mouse they have the sensor height included or something. Default lift off on a g303 and I assume all the other logitech 3366 mice is significantly less than 1 CD (1.2mm) on most cloth pads. With the surface calibration mine got even lower as well, but I use it without calibration because its plenty low already.
post #229 of 1549
I think I joined this forum to find a replacement for my DeathAdder. I bought the DeathAdder because my Diamondback broke. If you go back to my early posts you can see how much I hated the DeathAdder. I didn't like the main buttons, the shape, the wheel, the coating, the cable, the configuration issues, the polling rate issues, etc. I quickly moved to Zowie and stayed there because of Synapse. This new mouse does not change anything for me, I rather try out Logitech mice (if I was willing to spend more money).
post #230 of 1549
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Originally Posted by Eutheran View Post

To be honest the deathadder is my favorite mouse period and I wound up returning it due to poor quality control, but I would bet my last dollar if I found one with no issues I would be using a chroma today. Outside of QC the mouse has a great feel, the lowest LOD, amazing scroll wheel. The actually design of the mouse and sensor is great but QC is where razer loses a lot of its customers. Frankly I am bothered that no mouse has gotten close to the deathadders LOD, the DA can go down to 1mm where the 3366's can only go down to 2mm. This coming from someone with 18.5cm hands that does a hybrid fingertip palm and has used and owned: Rival 300, DA, G502, G403, G303, Finalmouse, FK1, FK1+, EC2-A, EC1-A, ZA-11 and a couple more mice trying to seek out the perfect mouse. The DA was closest to perfect for me but after returning it 5+ times for QC issues I gave up, maybe this iteration will be better in that regard.

EDIT: Also people, PLEASE buy the insurance on mice! 2 years of coverage is something like $7.00 at bestbuy! I was able to return my DA 5 times for a new one and then get a full refund on the last return (including the cost of insurance). It will cover your ass and they swap the product no questions asked!
How long after your original purchase did you return it for a full refund? I bought mine in December 2015, tried to get a full refund (with GeekSquad 2 year warranty on it) in March 2016, and got denied. I plan on at least trying to get store credit at the minimum so I get the new DeathAdder Elite for ~$20.
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