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post #381 of 1546
So you can't add custom DPI steps and change the mouse HZ but otherwise the mouse will save what DPI step you are on if you use presets? Also does lift distance save?
post #382 of 1546
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Originally Posted by PhiZaRoaH View Post

what happened to 'No 3366? Time for Logitech tho'
^^^^^ hello?
Ok so get the 403. You've been in the 403 threads asking more questions than 6 year old. You had a bad decision with the Chroma. Make a decision.
^^^^^^
Thanks for posting these along with the profile of the default dpi steps. I literally was gonna do the same after ripping the mouse open last night but was too pissed to post my pics after my post, so i got on NBA 2k. Lol

I also meant to add that the lighting saves while the dpi didn't. +1 for the internals post.

well i love da and i wanted to try 3360\6 so hard..
but i had bad experice with chroma . so i want to know if the sensor is the same same just other name tongue.gif
post #383 of 1546
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Originally Posted by Melan View Post

Hahaha. No.

Uh...yea. There's some variance between even the same models when it comes to clicks, one g900 might have better clicks than another g900 based on manufacturing tolerances. Then there's button design itself. The clicks on a g900 feel better than on a gPro. The clicks on the g303 are even better than on the g900, and the clickability throughout the button is more stable and even. Looking at the quoted part, "g900, 403", yes there is fluctuation in the same sensor based on weight distribution and sensor positioning relative to shape and how it applies comparatively. One pwm3366 might be closer to your fingertips, whereas another may have a sensor place 0.5cm closer to your palm.
post #384 of 1546
Which position makes for a more responsive sensor?
Where responsive can be replaced with raw/snappier whichever you prefer.
post #385 of 1546
What if its just a 3989 in a different package tongue.gif I'm mostly kidding, but I am confused by their numbering
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Originally Posted by whiteweazel21 View Post

Uh...yea. There's some variance between even the same models when it comes to clicks, one g900 might have better clicks than another g900 based on manufacturing tolerances. Then there's button design itself. The clicks on a g900 feel better than on a g403. The clicks on the g303 are even better than on the g900, and the clickability throughout the button is more stable and even. Looking at the quoted part, "g900, 403", yes there is fluctuation in the same sensor based on weight distribution and sensor positioning relative to shape and how it applies comparatively. One pwm3366 might be closer to your fingertips, whereas another may have a sensor place 0.5cm closer to your palm.

People play at a professional level with mice with terrible clicks and all kinds of sensors. Also since he was talking about sensors I'm assuming he meant he can't tell the difference between the sensor performance trying to factor other things out.
post #386 of 1546
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*snip*

Clicks will make some minor difference, yes depending if you need to spam them a lot. The major one will be always the shape.
There's no "fluctuations" with the sensor. It's the same damn thing. Position is another topic and even then, whole this 0.5cm offset in either direction looks like poor excuse for poor performance of a poor player. I'd understand something like "G500/G300S sensor position messes up my aim" but that 0.5cm rubbish is what it is - rubbish.
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post #387 of 1546
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What if its just a 3989 in a different package tongue.gif I'm mostly kidding, but I am confused by their numbering
People play at a professional level with mice with terrible clicks and all kinds of sensors. Also since he was talking about sensors I'm assuming he meant he can't tell the difference between the sensor performance trying to factor other things out.

But at the professional level, they are usually sponsored and required to use certain mice. Depending on which game they play and which sponsors. I think most sponsored players usually end up using pretty decent mice. But I'm fairly certain said player(s) required to use a certain mouse, would notice decreases in latency and or sensor performance between mice. But to a degree, if they play 10 hours a day everyday for months on end with a particular mouse, they would be most familiar with that one and changing mice would alter their hand-eye coordination. But I'm pretty sure a pro or non-pro high level player would notice a difference between an Avago and PWM sensor.
Edited by whiteweazel21 - 10/1/16 at 1:39pm
post #388 of 1546
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Originally Posted by Melan View Post

Clicks will make some minor difference, yes depending if you need to spam them a lot. The major one will be always the shape.
There's no "fluctuations" with the sensor. It's the same damn thing. Position is another topic and even then, whole this 0.5cm offset in either direction looks like poor excuse for poor performance of a poor player. I'd understand something like "G500/G300S sensor position messes up my aim" but that 0.5cm rubbish is what it is - rubbish.

Except the fluctuation's when you have a rattling sensor due to quality control? lol...

0.5cm is an example, and yes it would alter your aim depending what game you are playing. If you are playing a sniper class that requires pixel perfect aim for headshots, and have played with a particular mouse for say 1,000 hours, that 0.5cm would throw you off for a week or possibly longer. Not saying you would miraculously and suddenly not be able to aim, but your aim would most likely be "off" during the adjustment period.

If you were playing a game with say, a rocket launcher as your main weapon, then yea the effects of that 0.5cm example would be minimal.
Edited by whiteweazel21 - 10/1/16 at 1:44pm
post #389 of 1546
Rattling lens is a QC issue which, by the way, you could fix your self if you're not bothered with RMA procedures. I'll agree, it's not supposed to happen at all, but there are other examples of this happening on other mice. KPM is an example.

Your adjustment period will be a practice play and you don't need weeks for this. Been there, done that. Took 2 hours.
Edited by Melan - 10/1/16 at 1:47pm
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post #390 of 1546
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Originally Posted by ncck View Post

Unfortunately nothing has come out to top CRTs yet but hopefully one day. CRTs not only were more responsive they also had better colors
OLEDs are about a year away from from enthusiast products but it will be the technology that matches and surpasses crt performance.

I expected 3368 but in hindsight razer probably thought that people would only see the +2 difference as small change between them and logitech. 3389 makes sense from a marketing perspective.
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