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Actually the notion of them doing a simple refresh along these lines would suggest that they do not have much to fear.

Quite the opposite. If they weren't potentially worried about Vega being a threat, they'd just stay the same here. tongue.gif
     
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Quite the opposite. If they weren't potentially worried about Vega being a threat, they'd just stay the same here. tongue.gif

That honestly would not make sense at all. When Vega launches Nvidia can launch right alongside it and steal much of the thunder AMD desperately need for Vega. They can prolong this generation with what is suggesting to be virtually no hardware change only clock speed changes. They are at a point in which yields are reliable, they no longer need to devote R&D budget to this hardware and their profit margins on these cards should be very impressive. This is exactly where Nvidia want to be, they are going to have yet another high volume, high profit, low overhead generation with what looks to be no relevant answer from their competition.


Anyone that is suggesting this is an act of desperation seems to be viewing the scenario through rose colored glasses. If this were a matter of desperation from Nvidia they would be moving their release window forward not prolonging this current architecture.
Edited by Woundingchaney - 9/28/16 at 3:53am
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Look like i was right on no volta before 2018, instead we only get pascal refresh.. All those rumors leaked by Ileakstaff remain as bs.


A few month back i already guess it. Pascal will mirror kepler release back in 2012-13 and there wont be 1080 ti just like there is no 680 ti
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That honestly would not make sense at all. When Vega launches Nvidia can launch right alongside it and steal much of the thunder AMD desperately need for Vega. They can prolong this generation with what is suggesting to be virtually no hardware change only clock speed changes. They are at a point in which yields are reliable, they no longer need to devote R&D budget to this hardware and their profit margins on these cards should be very impressive. This is exactly where Nvidia want to be, they are going to have yet another high volume, high profit, low overhead generation with what looks to be no relevant answer from their competition.


Anyone that is suggesting this is an act of desperation seems to be viewing the scenario through rose colored glasses. If this were a matter of desperation from Nvidia they would be moving their release window forward not prolonging this current architecture.


Sadly the case, unless of course Vega blows away Pascal. Which is something all enthusiasts should be wishing for, long term at least.
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If it ain't HBM, I ain't buying.

Memory bandwidth isn't really a big issue. If it was, I'd be sure as hell gunning for it too. It's just not, though.

^ pretty much THAT.

from what i understand (no i am not an expert but play one on TV. biggrin.gif ) the bandwidth of gddr5X is enough until gpus substantially increase their performance.

yeah, it was an article i read somewhere when the 1080 was released, but it seemed well written and had some relative numbers crunched. BUT if someone has the preference to pay for something they don't need . . . this is OCN! tongue.gif

Notice how little performance you get when you crank up that memory overclock? That's because it's not bottlenecked. More of something you don't need isn't going to help you rolleyes.gif
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Notice how little performance you get when you crank up that memory overclock? That's because it's not bottlenecked. More of something you don't need isn't going to help you rolleyes.gif

People are showing fps gains with pascal when OC the memory. 

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GTX 1080 shows great scalability with memory overclock. Tested that myself, going form 10GHz to 11.5GHz @2000MHz core speed resulted in ~10% performance gain.
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980 msrp was like what 550?  1080 msrp is 599?  So about 100% performance gain for a 9% price hike? You can't tell me that aint good.
780 was 499 msrp.  
680 and 580 was 500 msrp. 


My EVGA SC 980 (reference) was 583 with tax.... Newegg doesnt have a 1080 for less than 629. The EVGA 1080 (founders edition aka reference) is 699, they don't even have a SC edition this time around. With Tax it will come out to 757.

That's a 29.8% increase. It's also not a 100% performance gain it's about a 58% increase in performance... after 2 years... In Technology 2 years is a lifetime.
 
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GTX 1080 shows great scalability with memory overclock. Tested that myself, going form 10GHz to 11.5GHz @2000MHz core speed resulted in ~10% performance gain.

Is that gain strictly from the memory overclock, because that would not coincide with my findings.
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GTX 1080 shows great scalability with memory overclock. Tested that myself, going form 10GHz to 11.5GHz @2000MHz core speed resulted in ~10% performance gain.

Is that gain strictly from the memory overclock, because that would not coincide with my findings.

To get a 10% increase from 2000Mhz Core 10Ghz mem to 2000Mhz Core 11.5Ghz mem seems like an extreme amount of performance just from memory overclocking. Historically, I don't see more than a couple FPS difference.
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