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My EVGA SC 980 (reference) was 583 with tax.... Newegg doesnt have a 1080 for less than 629. The EVGA 1080 (founders edition aka reference) is 699, they don't even have a SC edition this time around. With Tax it will come out to 757.

That's a 29.8% increase. It's also not a 100% performance gain it's about a 58% increase in performance... after 2 years... In Technology 2 years is a lifetime.

My release prices are all correct, and online benchmarks show 80-100% faster.   And even if we used ur numbers, 583 vs 629, that's only 7.8% increase in price.  And you can get 1080s for 608 dollars on amazon.   No idea why you tried to argue with me and then tried to pick the most price card to inflate the numbers. 

 

Also release price of a sc 980 was 579 dollars, and price of a 1080 SC is 640 on amazon.


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after 2 years... In Technology 2 years is a lifetime.

Guess its better than AMD hitting us with Polaris that competes with 2 year old 970s, struggling to beat 10 year old 290X :/
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No thank you. Maybe if I see a news article stating that they have replaced everyone in their software/driver development department I will consider buying another Nvidia card. The last 9-12 months have been pretty damn bad.
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My release prices are all correct, and online benchmarks show 80-100% faster.   And even if we used ur numbers, 583 vs 629, that's only 7.8% increase in price.  And you can get 1080s for 608 dollars on amazon.   No idea why you tried to argue with me and then tried to pick the most price card to inflate the numbers. 

Also release price of a sc 980 was 579 dollars, and price of a 1080 SC is 640 on amazon.


583 with tax... 629 before tax.. with taxes it's a little more than that.. (629 x .0825) + 629 for the cheapest one... that's not the reference version which I owned. You have to compare apples to apples.. apples to apples is 583 vs 699 + (699 x .0825) my math is right.
 
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583 with tax... 629 before tax.. with taxes it's a little more than that.. (629 x .0825) + 629 for the cheapest one... that's not the reference version which I owned. You have to compare apples to apples.. apples to apples is 583 vs 699 + (699 x .0825) my math is right.

Taxes do not apply in comparisons such as this. Simply compare the listed launch prices of the cards. Listed MSRP of the cards is the only true comparison otherwise people get deals from sales, promotions, tax rates change, etc.
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In my mind they knew what they had with Maxwell from the get-go. That is why they changed their roadmap.

It seems nVidia is starting to act more and more like Intel. Smaller gains, more money.

I guess you can do that when you don't have any competition.

Moooooo....milk milk milk. biggrin.gif
They changed the roadmap because 20nm didn't work out, and they had to rework Maxwell for 28nm. Pascal is what Maxwell should have been.

The reason Nvidia bought Pascal out than jumping straight to Volta is the you don't drop a completely new architecture on a brand new node.
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Taxes do not apply in comparisons such as this. Simply compare the listed launch prices of the cards. Listed MSRP of the cards is the only true comparison otherwise people get deals from sales, promotions, tax rates change, etc.


ok then, 550 versus 699 ... do the math it's still a 30% price increase.
 
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If it ain't HBM, I ain't buying.

Memory bandwidth isn't really a big issue. If it was, I'd be sure as hell gunning for it too. It's just not, though.

^ pretty much THAT.

from what i understand (no i am not an expert but play one on TV. biggrin.gif ) the bandwidth of gddr5X is enough until gpus substantially increase their performance.

yeah, it was an article i read somewhere when the 1080 was released, but it seemed well written and had some relative numbers crunched. BUT if someone has the preference to pay for something they don't need . . . this is OCN! tongue.gif

Notice how little performance you get when you crank up that memory overclock? That's because it's not bottlenecked. More of something you don't need isn't going to help you rolleyes.gif

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ok then, 550 versus 699 ... do the math it's still a 30% price increase.

1080 msrp is 599 not 699, no idea why you are getting upset about this and arguing. 

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1080 msrp is 599 not 699, no idea why you are getting upset about this and arguing. 

You mean the $599 MSRP that wasn't available at launch? Or the $599 MSRP that took weeks to appear after aftermarket cards finally started to appear?

Nvidia may have said $599, but the retail prices were well above that for quite some time. Similar situation to AMD and Polaris actually, but at least they didn't have the gall to sell the reference model for an extra 15%.
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