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EK D5 vs DDC elite water loop check, which is better for this setup?

post #1 of 11
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Hey there, as stated in the topic, I'm trying to do some research before I decide on which pump to get. All of the threads that I have seen do not take into account the DDC elites, and I'm also thinking about the maximum number of components I will be adding. The setup that I am going for would include a CPU block, north bridge, two video cards and both a 360 and a 240 radiator. Initially the 240 and the two video card blocks will not be part of the setup, but I do want a pump that will handle things once the loop is at it's largest state.

Is the completed loop too large for the D5 to handle, and how does the DDC elite compared to the older version, does it still have the tendency to overheat?

Another thing to note is that there is a high likelyhood that I will be going with a cylindrical pump/res combo, if that makes any difference.
post #2 of 11
The DDC elite is still the same DDC pump as the rest of them, ek just slapped on a top & heatsink base.

If you've got the room grab the D5 Vario, it's a very quiet pump (if mounted on a foam block) compared to the DDC and it doesn't get hot either. It will handle your planned loop just fine.
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post #3 of 11
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What is the difference between the Vario and the G2 motor, and can either of those be used in a pump/res combo?
post #4 of 11
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Originally Posted by Elanachan View Post

What is the difference between the Vario and the G2 motor, and can either of those be used in a pump/res combo?
They are basically the same pump but the G2 is PWM controlled and the Vario has a dial on the back to adjust it's speed.

EK does sell pre-assembled pump/res combos in a couple of sizes if you were wondering: https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-xres-140-revo-d5-pwm-incl-pump
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post #5 of 11
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Would you suggest going with the vario, taking into consideration I would be dual booting windows and linux? my understanding is that PWM means the pump speed is controlled by software. Also, if the pump is on the bottom to make a combo unit, is there a method you would suggest so that I can adjust the speed on the vario once installed? I have a feeling space will be limited around the control dial.
post #6 of 11
It's pretty much set once and forget. PWM is not terribly useful when it comes to pumps, unlike fans.
post #7 of 11
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If that is the case, what speed would be suggested for the components I would be including?
post #8 of 11
4 on D5 dial probably. Can try 3 and see if you get decent enough flow. 2 GPUs isn't that bad really in terms of restriction. 5 is the max and can be a bit noisy but you could try that as well.
post #9 of 11
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A problem I have found with going with the vario motor is that EK is not currently offering the D5 holder apart from pre-assembled combo kits, and so I would need an alternative mounting solution. Any ideas?
post #10 of 11
Not sure what you mean... Any D5 version fits any D5 top, that I know of. You can get pump/res combo with a pump, or pump/res combo and the pump separately, or pump with top combo, or all of pump, top and res separately.
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