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actually just one rumor was "debunked" and mind you that was an image, not the rumor. personally i think that thread got locked way too soon since as you can see here there is alot of speculation people have pent up about the card.

if you dson't like the wccf tech block diagram, here is guru3d's:
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti now rumored to be released at CES 2017


better? rolleyes.gif

remember, this is the rumor's section, if it was 100% accurate it would be in the news section. wink.gif

but yeah, people never check sources.


The fact that it comes in G5 instead of G5X make it cringe worthy...


I mean do you want micron G5 chip on your $800 prized possession that cannot OCed at all when its already facing memory bottleneck?


It has 30% more shader cores than GTX 1080 while only having 20% more memory bandwidth... it is very very heavily bottleneck, you talking about 100GB/s difference vs TXP which only has 256 cores extra!

what bottleneck?
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Yes, finally. This is one of the reasons why I didn't buy a 1080. Also, the price. £600 to £700 here in the UK! Hopefully, the 1080 drops in price and this 1080 Ti comes in at around the same price as a current 1080. Can't imagine 1070 prices shifting though, since they're quite a bit cheaper than current 1080s.

Still, GPU prices are ridiculous these days.
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Yes, finally. This is one of the reasons why I didn't buy a 1080. Also, the price. £600 to £700 here in the UK! Hopefully, the 1080 drops in price and this 1080 Ti comes in at around the same price as a current 1080. Can't imagine 1070 prices shifting though, since they're quite a bit cheaper than current 1080s.

Still, GPU prices are ridiculous these days.

The 1080 ti will be at least $50 more than the 1080 founders was and that's for reference, custom cards will be a lot more. Reference might even be more than $50.
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actually just one rumor was "debunked" and mind you that was an image, not the rumor. personally i think that thread got locked way too soon since as you can see here there is alot of speculation people have pent up about the card.

if you dson't like the wccf tech block diagram, here is guru3d's:
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti now rumored to be released at CES 2017


better? rolleyes.gif

remember, this is the rumor's section, if it was 100% accurate it would be in the news section. wink.gif

but yeah, people never check sources.


The fact that it comes in G5 instead of G5X make it cringe worthy...


I mean do you want micron G5 chip on your $800 prized possession that cannot OCed at all when its already facing memory bottleneck?


It has 30% more shader cores than GTX 1080 while only having 20% more memory bandwidth... it is very very heavily bottleneck, you talking about 100GB/s difference vs TXP which only has 256 cores extra!

what bottleneck?

the rx480 has been rumored to have memory bottlenecks with its g5 chips. if this fake 1080ti has the same memory and more cores than the 1080/rx480 then yes, it will bottleneck beyond comprehension. no compression tech can save this one.
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Price cut the 1080 to 450$,1070 to 300$ and 1060 to 200$ then launch this at 650-700$
Edited by HugoStiglitz96 - 9/30/16 at 3:38pm
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what bottleneck?

the rx480 has been rumored to have memory bottlenecks with its g5 chips. if this fake 1080ti has the same memory and more cores than the 1080/rx480 then yes, it will bottleneck beyond comprehension. no compression tech can save this one.

rumored? stop.
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Welcome to my world. Maybe the worse part about 290X is finding a replacement. Vega really has to deliver though. I want at least GTX1080 performance for $550 max.

Me and you are in the same boat. After the first Titan came out I told myself and even said on this forum many times I will not drop over the "standard" high end GPU prices again. $550 is absolute max, but realistically I'd prefer $499.

There is no card three years later for me that is a worthwhile upgrade, especially at my current 4k. I'm not going to drop the money for a 1070/980ti or Fury-X for a minor fps jump at 4k. It is not worth it for me to drop near $500 for a meager gain of 10fps at most in 90% of titles when those cards can barely pull 45fps themselves. I would rather save the money and drop from ultra to high or high to medium.

Even going to a gtx1080 is still around 15fps more average at 4k compared to my oc'ed 290x.
Certainly not worth $700 over a three year old card that manages fine with lowering a few settings at 4k or simply dropping to 1080p or 1440p and maxing out most games just fine over 60fps.

If 1080 performance drops into the $500 range, or AMD offers similar performance for that I will be going that route instead. Whatever route Vega lands, AMD has a history of doing better at high res and I feel Vega will be a far better option for those of us on 4k. All AMD has to do is price it right and there is a large market.

I'm not one to freak out about an incandescent light bulb's worth more of power consumption if it has to be that way to get the performance I want at the price.
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The GTX 1080 (with it's 256-bit bus) generally sees much greater benefit, proportionally speaking, from core clocks than memory clocks, even at 4k. The Titan X is even less memory bandwidth limited with the same memory clock, 50% wider bus, but lower core clocks and less than 50% increase in functional units.

Unless the 1080 Ti is clocked considerably higher than the TItan X, even 8Gbps GDDR5 isn't likely to make it significantly memory bottlenecked.

If anyone reading this has a GP 102 Titan X, you can confirm or debunk a memory bottleneck by underclocking your card's memory and running some benchmarks. If it takes more than a 2% reduction in memory clock to reduce average performance by each 1%, then I'd argue even GDDR5 is enough.
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So now the GTX 1080ti release with the specs I called first back when everybody was calling me a troll for saying they'd not release a "GP" of the P100 chip...

A chapter closes.


Now for the juicy stuff. I'm betting that the Vega10 won't stand a chance against the 1080ti at 3200x1440 or less but will hold its own just fine in most detail levels in 4k against the Titan-P and that the superior asyncronous capacity of the 8x64bit ram controllers of HBM2 will serve it handily when doing multiple monitors.


Has nVidia resolved the multi-card limits in support on games yet that JayzTwoCents was displaying with black-outs and other problems?
Edited by prjindigo - 9/30/16 at 5:53pm
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The GTX 1080 (with it's 256-bit bus) generally sees much greater benefit, proportionally speaking, from core clocks than memory clocks, even at 4k. The Titan X is even less memory bandwidth limited with the same memory clock, 50% wider bus, but lower core clocks and less than 50% increase in functional units.

Unless the 1080 Ti is clocked considerably higher than the TItan X, even 8Gbps GDDR5 isn't likely to make it significantly memory bottlenecked.

If anyone reading this has a GP 102 Titan X, you can confirm or debunk a memory bottleneck by underclocking your card's memory and running some benchmarks. If it takes more than a 2% reduction in memory clock to reduce average performance by each 1%, then I'd argue even GDDR5 is enough.



You are talking about 384GB/s of 1080 Ti vs 480GB/s that TXP have and they both have similar amount of graphical processing capability.


Even 1080 have better bandwidth per cores vs the 1080 Ti.



Now you telling us it wont bottleneck for the former, you got to be kidding. Pascal only have 20% more compression tech than Kepler, not 50%. The existence of HBM would be redundant if what you said is true.
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