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It feels like they release a product every 18 months while Nvidia is busy releasing products one right after another and milking as much from consumers as possible. And if AMD is lucky enough to have a competitive product for 3 whole seconds (290X, RX480), Nvidia will quickly top it with something else (780Ti, 1060) and then AMD goes back to getting smashed until their product product 18 months away, which Nvidia quickly tops anyway.

This is what it feels like at least for the higher end products.

The 290x laughs at the 780ti in the long run, though. Ended up as the slower card only to be worsened by one less gb of vram. Well worth the money spent getting a card that has held up far better over time while still costing less when new and being the 'older' card.
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The 290x laughs at the 780ti in the long run, though. Ended up as the slower card only to be worsened by one less gb of vram. Well worth the money spent getting a card that has held up far better over time while still costing less when new and being the 'older' card.

Cost wise 290X + WB ~ GTX780 Ti. Much rather have a WC card biggrin.gif. 290X was always the better buy even if performance was 10% less at launch. GTX980 Ti was clearly better than Fury X.
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I waited for 290X and it was GTX 780 and Titan killer. What more can you ask?

That was in 2013. I think the obvious answer is something that competes in the high end a little more recently than 3 years ago.
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That was in 2013. I think the obvious answer is something that competes in the high end a little more recently than 3 years ago.

It was the same talk back then. People like to talk down AMD. Nvidia has not impressed me. I am still waiting to upgrade from 290X.
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It was the same talk back then. People like to talk down AMD. Nvidia has not impressed me. I am still waiting to upgrade from 290X.
Plenty of options. I think what you really mean is that you're waiting for high-end cards that have had their price deflated by the 2nd hand market or a desperation for market share.
    
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Plenty of options. I think what you really mean is that you're waiting for high-end cards that have had their price deflated by the 2nd hand market or a desperation for market share.

Wrong word. Normalized. Right now Nvidia cards price are inflated.
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The 290x laughs at the 780ti in the long run, though.

Agreed, but performance in the long run means nothing for AMD's sales.

Let me explain.

290x comes out, gets outperformed by the 780Ti by 10% and by the time AMD beats it significantly both cards are EOL which means no more sales for AMD.

Great for long term 290x users, great for the second hand market because 290x cards retain value unlike Nvidia cards, but it doesn't do any good for AMD's bottom line.

The only thing it might do for AMD is get people who want GPUs for the long long haul, and they're a small percentage. So Nvidia always wins in these 1-1.5 year short bursts, and it helps them in the long run because they continue to beat AMD in these contests.
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Agreed, but performance in the long run means nothing for AMD's sales.

Let me explain.

290x comes out, gets outperformed by the 780Ti by 10% and by the time AMD beats it significantly both cards are EOL which means no more sales for AMD.

Great for long term 290x users, great for the second hand market because 290x cards retain value unlike Nvidia cards, but it doesn't do any good for AMD's bottom line.

The only thing it might do for AMD is get people who want GPUs for the long long haul, and they're a small percentage. So Nvidia always wins in these 1-1.5 year short bursts, and it helps them in the long run because they continue to beat AMD in these contests.

nicely put

290/290x/7970 aged well

but simply people arent buying wine to see if it ages well, they want their performance and they want it now
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Nvidia is a front runner and as soon as the contest is over and the next cards come out they dump driver support while AMD continues to support theirs. And Nvidia wins the cash game every single time.

You can trust AMD to properly support their cards and not pull any shady stuff with their card names or come up with sudden secret releases, but they're always late to the game and Nvidia's already soaked up the market with their overpriced hardware which has constantly been downgraded as years go by.
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Plenty of options. I think what you really mean is that you're waiting for high-end cards that have had their price deflated by the 2nd hand market or a desperation for market share.

Wrong word. Normalized. Right now Nvidia cards price are inflated.
I was actually alluding to how 290X's were substantially cheaper than MSRP at one time due to the mining craze. Nvidia's high-end cards are much better than your 290X. They simply carry a premium that you're not willing to pay.
    
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