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Furmark+Prime95 is not anywhere near a realistic workload

It's a worst case scenario test.

If I know my cooling and power supply can handle them, they'll handle more typical loads for orders of magnitude more time. That's what stress testing is for.
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AMD and NV are right to throttle their newer cards when you run that crap.

I'm of the opinion that I should be able to execute any software that's technically able to run on my hardware...and generally I can. However, headroom is often non-existent in the most demanding software I can find, and some past parts have been wholly inadequate.

There are quite a few real-world apps that are more demanding than most games or benchmarks, and even those that aren't any more demanding can be vastly more sensitive to instability. It generally takes quite a huge rate of GPU errors to actually crash a game or make artifacts you can see. Clocks that you may never have issues with in a game could be returning bad data to distributed computing projects, result in stale shares while crypto mining, or cause corruption/crashes in other GPGPU work.

Out of curiosity, does your 290 show any ECD errors at your 24/7 OC? You can see these as "GPU Memory Errors" in HWInfo.
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My only hope is they price it reasonably but my brain, and past release experience the last few years, tells me that it will be $749 minimum and most likely $799+. Add in the first few weeks of vendor price gouging and they will probably be $850-900 until the hype settles down. If they come out of the gate at $650 or lower, I will burn up my keyboard clicking add to cart so fast. I'm tired of running 2, very hot, cards and a very hot CPU. I'll gladly donate my 780 Ti's to family members for one single 1080 Ti if the price is anywhere near reasonable. Grab one of those up with a water block and OC it to hell and back and turn HT off on the CPU and get the highest OC I can with stock voltage or maybe even under-volt it to reduce heat and be done with it. While still having a profile saved with HT and 4.5Ghz OC when needed.
I'm having to run 2 PSU's just to power this crazy system and it's just too freakin' hot. Gaming highs hit right at 1.1 KW from the wall and over 1300KW running LinX running 14 cores (leaving 2 for the GPU's) and EVGA's OC Scanner's "DOF" test which puts my GPU's at about 140% power consumption. Over 1450KW with any of the "furry cube" type benches which will make them hit 175%+ which is a very unrealistic scenario which is why I use the DOF one instead. My water temps never go over 37-38C with my excellent water setup. It keeps my GPU's at 36C average gaming(42-43C max) and CPU's highest core of the 16 never goes over 62-63C but all that heat dumped into my room is unbearable at times. This GPU can't come fast enough. I don't see myself ever going multi GPU again once I dump these. Please, please price these at a descent price, Nvidia!
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the graph isn't gradual because it is skewed. tongue.gif

fermi releases were a GF100 for the 480 and a GF110 for the 580 both $500 BUT there were also two GK110 chips (no GK100 part) with the FULL chip being $700 not $1000.

That is nonsense, my chart include the most expensive consumer card which include the titan pricing which explain why pascal is $1200
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Out of curiosity, does your 290 show any ECD errors at your 24/7 OC? You can see these as "GPU Memory Errors" in HWInfo.
I don't have the card anymore now that I've replaced with the XP. However, I never did testing in any those applications you listed. There could very well be stability issues, but it was fine for games.

However, I did dabble in eth mining a very small bit, but I found it was way not worth it. I did run it overclocked, but I don't think I was using extra voltage. The clocks would have been close to 1100/1400.
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the graph isn't gradual because it is skewed. tongue.gif

fermi releases were a GF100 for the 480 and a GF110 for the 580 both $500 BUT there were also two GK110 chips (no GK100 part) with the FULL chip being $700 not $1000.

That is nonsense, my chart include the most expensive consumer card which include the titan pricing which explain why pascal is $1200

it's not none sense that you cherry picked the data and mislead with labeling; you have it listed as chips, not cards. surprised you didn't include the titan z. rolleyes.gif
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Another 2 months or 3 and the new Titan...
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Not on air.

Keeping the VRM cool on air during worst case loads is extremely difficult. The reference cooler actually cools the VRM pretty well, but it can't handle the GPU's heat production without sounding like a hair dryer. Non-reference and after market coolers, like what's on the Sapphire Tri-X NEs that I've got cool the GPU much better, but the VRM cooling isn't any better and rapidly becomes the limiting factor.

Only reason I put up with the noise on my reference cooler. I keep it at 70% fan speed as the top of a ramp up if it get's WAY too hot but otherwise it's usually in the 64-65% range which is very slightly above factory 'uber' settings. That said, I bumped the power slider 6% and keep the core at 1060mhz with no voltage increase. I can do 1150/1500 w/ +100mv on this sapphire reference model fine as well but it gets too hot too fast for 24/7 stability. 1100/1500 is manageable though.
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Last time I checked my setup during Crysis 3 was ~ 650W with cards at stock, 850W with +100mV and 1050W with + 200mV. 650W is not that bad.

I pulled 670w or so back when I had my single oc'ed 290x paired with a FX-9590... The 4790k sips power in comparison. Always wanted to try CFX with the 290x especially back when prices were low but though my NZXT Hale-82 850w psu is pretty good, it's simply not enough.
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it's not none sense that you cherry picked the data and mislead with labeling; you have it listed as chips, not cards. surprised you didn't include the titan z. rolleyes.gif

What are you talking? Of cos I added in as chip not card cos the chip were of similar sizes.


I am talking about chip, which imply single GPU, not dual GPU like GTX 690 590 etc. you are one that is misleading others.


Kepler has no GK100 chip for consumer. Its GK110 but my chart 00/02 implied the big chip for that generation, which include GK110 but I didnt add more "/" to minimise cluttering.


If you want to specific its:

GF110 - Most expensive consumer model - GTX 580, $499 (Reference)
GF104 - Most expensive consumer model - GTX 560, $249 (Reference)
GF106

GK110 - Most expensive consumer model - Titan OG/Black, $999 (Reference)
GK104 - Most expensive consumer model - GTX 680, $499 (Reference)
GK106

GM200 - Most expensive consumer model - Titan X, $999 (Reference)
GM204 - Most expensive consumer model - GTX 980, $549 (Reference)
GM206

GP102 - Most expensive consumer model - Titan X pascal, $1200 (Reference)
GP104 - Most expensive consumer model - GTX 1080, $699 (Reference)
GP106

Please dont mislead and add more to confusion.



PS: If nvidia were in monopoly back in 2010 they would have listed (GF110 based) GTX 580 as Titan F with $1200 and GTX 560 as GTX 580 as $699 and you would have suck up to it anyway.
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it's not none sense that you cherry picked the data and mislead with labeling; you have it listed as chips, not cards. surprised you didn't include the titan z. rolleyes.gif

What are you talking? Of cos I added in as chip not card cos the chip were of similar sizes.


I am talking about chip, which imply single GPU, not dual GPU like GTX 690 590 etc. you are one that is misleading others.


Kepler has no GK100 chip for consumer. Its GK110 but my chart 00/02 implied the big chip for that generation, which include GK110 but I didnt add more "/" to minimise cluttering.


If you want to specific its:

GF110 - Most expensive consumer model - GTX 580, $499 (Reference)
GF104 - Most expensive consumer model - GTX 560, $249 (Reference)
GF106

GK110 - Most expensive consumer model - Titan OG/Black, $999 (Reference)
GK104 - Most expensive consumer model - GTX 680, $499 (Reference)
GK106

GM200 - Most expensive consumer model - Titan X, $999 (Reference)
GM204 - Most expensive consumer model - GTX 980, $549 (Reference)
GM206

GP102 - Most expensive consumer model - Titan X pascal, $1200 (Reference)
GP104 - Most expensive consumer model - GTX 1080, $699 (Reference)
GP106

Please dont mislead and add more to confusion.



PS: If nvidia were in monopoly back in 2010 they would have listed (GF110 based) GTX 580 as Titan F with $1200 and GTX 560 as GTX 580 as $699 and you would have suck up to it anyway.


i'm not trying to mislead or confuse anyone. the OG titan was not a full chip and the titan black was released over a year later; after kepler's refresh. the 780ti was the first and for awhile the only full GK110 chip on the market but yet you'll dismiss it. so yeah you're talking CARDS not CHIPS here no matter how you label it.

if you don't want that pointed out then i guess you only want the data that shows your conclusion. btw, pascel still hasn't released a full chip yet but i guess that doesn't help your cause either.
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