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I love how people complain technology isn't moving fast enough, but when Nvidia releases something new for a similar price that slaps the last "top of the line" by 40%, everyone goes bonkers and complains about it.


If they gave us 5-10% every generation everybody would cry that we weren't seeing gains.

It was 25% tbh.

And most of the 40% gain from tsmc 16 ff+. Nvidia just retuned their maxwell to make sure they can perform at that speed.

Memory compression, better boost etc. it is still a maxwell at the heart of the design
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I love how people complain technology isn't moving fast enough, but when Nvidia releases something new for a similar price that slaps the last "top of the line" by 40%, everyone goes bonkers and complains about it.


If they gave us 5-10% every generation everybody would cry that we weren't seeing gains.

For a simillar price - 1200 USD for new card and new 80 card at the cost of previous 80Ti in previous generation.

I don't think it is simillar price at all.
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It was 25% tbh.

And most of the 40% gain from tsmc 16 ff+. Nvidia just retuned their maxwell to make sure they can perform at that speed.

Memory compression, better boost etc. it is still a maxwell at the heart of the design
Still irrelevant. Performance is performance. The 1080 could be a return to Kepler for all a consumer SHOULD care. Peformance is performance.
    
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Still irrelevant. Performance is performance. The 1080 could be a return to Kepler for all a consumer SHOULD care. Peformance is performance.

Not true. You could say that for Intel CPUs also. Each generation 5-10% gain, but performance is performance. At least intel does not rise prices and each generation new i7 k costs same as previous one.

Of course each generation will be faster- performance, as you have said. But I don't think that justify higher prices. GPUs should have more less simillar price points every generation, simillar as Intel has for CPUs.

Going by your standards- 4 generation from now new 80 card will costs price of nowaday TITAN Pascal X, cause performance is performance.

Any company (TV, radio, speakers, CPUs, cars etc.) can go simillar explanation and rise they prices every year couse of small performance gains. Wonder how much some things would cost today. You know that brand new Fridge costs today as much as brand new fridge 8-10 years ago. Even though performance is performance?

Same with TVs.
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It was 25% tbh.

And most of the 40% gain from tsmc 16 ff+. Nvidia just retuned their maxwell to make sure they can perform at that speed.

Memory compression, better boost etc. it is still a maxwell at the heart of the design


You're focusing to much on the numbers so I will be blunt.


People complain about when little-to-no progress is being made.

On the other hand, people complain when their last gen item becomes "irrelevant" according to them, when a new product comes out that is much faster.


It seems no matter which side things are on, people are always unhappy and find something to ***** about.
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Still irrelevant. Performance is performance. The 1080 could be a return to Kepler for all a consumer SHOULD care. Peformance is performance.

Not true. You could say that for Intel CPUs also. Each generation 5-10% gain, but performance is performance. At least intel does not rise prices and each generation new i7 k costs same as previous one.

Of course each generation will be faster- performance, as you have said. But I don't think that justify higher prices. GPUs should have more less simillar price points every generation, simillar as Intel has for CPUs.

Going by your standards- 4 generation from now new 80 card will costs price of nowaday TITAN Pascal X, cause performance is performance.

Any company (TV, radio, speakers, CPUs, cars etc.) can go simillar explanation and rise they prices every year couse of small performance gains. Wonder how much some things would cost today. You know that brand new Fridge costs today as much as brand new fridge 8-10 years ago. Even though performance is performance?

Same with TVs.
You missed the entire point, i'm afraid.
    
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So I am waiting here for Nvidia flagship for $500. Anything more is overpriced. People should be OK with $600, 650, 700, 750+ cards. Vote with wallet and the nightmare of high prices will end. As long as you feed them they will keep increasing prices. Stop being GPU addicts. Get some help.
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So I am waiting here for Nvidia flagship for $500. Anything more is overpriced. People should be OK with $600, 650, 700, 750+ cards. Vote with wallet and the nightmare of high prices will end. As long as you feed them they will keep increasing prices. Stop being GPU addicts. Get some help.
I'm afraid you are going to be waiting for a $500 flagship Nvidia GPU for the rest of your life. The days of such prices are long gone. You'd need the entire PC builders' world to stand as one and for no-one to buy anything over $500. It's just not gonna happen. The will isn't there. Look at how people bought the Titan XP in their droves even though it was widely recognized as to be ridiculously stupidly priced.

I admire your stance. But I fear that it is beyond futile.
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I'm afraid you are going to be waiting for a $500 flagship Nvidia GPU for the rest of your life. The days of such prices are long gone. You'd need the entire PC builders' world to stand as one and for no-one to buy anything over $500. It's just not gonna happen. The will isn't there. Look at how people bought the Titan XP in their droves even though it was widely recognized as to be ridiculously stupidly priced.

I admire your stance. But I fear that it is beyond futile.

Not many people buy anything over $500. The % is very small. The change is possible. Problem is people value money differently.
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Problem is people value money differently.
Exactly. Agreed.
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