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For some people money is not a concern in the slightest and hence will buy anything at any price. If NV released a double sized Titan X2 with 4 times the price it would sell, low amount sure, but then so do expensive cars sell in low amounts yet they do sell and have waiting lists.
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For some people money is not a concern in the slightest and hence will buy anything at any price. If NV released a double sized Titan X2 with 4 times the price it would sell, low amount sure, but then so do expensive cars sell in low amounts yet they do sell and have waiting lists.

Titan Z did not sell. A Titan that is 2x faster than Titan XP but 4 times the price will sell.
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I think pc gamers as a whole have been targeted companies now know how much people love their machines..i mean 120 dollar mice ,200 dollar keyboards our demographic has been marked as a cash cow. so now on to my point i've been reading and digging a bit and caught a rumor of pascal refresh and the pricing of the 2080 refresh is quite nice which makes me thing this is the area in which vega will land. all this assumes the rumor has merit which it might not but yeah thats my opinion and nvidia ti titan thing shouldn't be a surprise unless your new

http://videocardz.com/63764/editorial-nvidia-geforce-20-series
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I love how people complain technology isn't moving fast enough, but when Nvidia releases something new for a similar price that slaps the last "top of the line" by 40%, everyone goes bonkers and complains about it.


If they gave us 5-10% every generation everybody would cry that we weren't seeing gains.

Back then release schedules, prices, and products were predictable and no-nonsense.

Fully unlocked high end flagship for $499. Cut down flagship for $329. Midrange for $229. Boom, that's it. No BS.

These days every product tier is a blatant rip off, prices have doubled tripled and almost quadrupled, and they have a dozen products in their pocket just waiting to milk customers with.

It's disgusting on every level and to pretend that they've always behaved this way is a lie.
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A gtx 980 to a gtx 1080 is 80-100% faster in games.  Where are you guys getting these 40% or 25% gains?

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I think pc gamers as a whole have been targeted companies now know how much people love their machines..i mean 120 dollar mice ,200 dollar keyboards our demographic has been marked as a cash cow. so now on to my point i've been reading and digging a bit and caught a rumor of pascal refresh and the pricing of the 2080 refresh is quite nice which makes me thing this is the area in which vega will land. all this assumes the rumor has merit which it might not but yeah thats my opinion and nvidia ti titan thing shouldn't be a surprise unless your new

http://videocardz.com/63764/editorial-nvidia-geforce-20-series
Same chips being clock at actual OC levels without an increase in price is not going to happen.
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Back then release schedules, prices, and products were predictable and no-nonsense.

Fully unlocked high end flagship for $499. Cut down flagship for $329. Midrange for $229. Boom, that's it. No BS.

These days every product tier is a blatant rip off, prices have doubled tripled and almost quadrupled, and they have a dozen products in their pocket just waiting to milk customers with.

It's disgusting on every level and to pretend that they've always behaved this way is a lie.

This is what happens when there's a monopoly. AMD isn't competing with Nvidia, they release hardware that's outdated consistently so in reality, Nvidia can set their pricing to whatever they want until amd starts competing with their top end on release.

We need a competitior for Nvidia to fix the market at this point. Too bad the cost of entry to this industry is far too high for competition to come along.
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A gtx 980 to a gtx 1080 is 80-100% faster in games.  Where are you guys getting these 40% or 25% gains?
Eh more like 50-70% faster. Went from a pair of 980's to a pair of 1080's. Compared single and SLI performance and I never gained twice the frame rate. Not even close. To be fair I did go from a pair of SC to a pair of Founder's Edition.

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/10341249/fs/8618001

Around 50% gains in 1080p.
Around 63% gains in 4K.
Around 70% in TimeSpy.

The higher up you go in resolution and the bigger the gap becomes. Probably because of the bandwidth of the 1080. It also has much better DX12 support and twice the RAM so I'm very happy with my 1080's.
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Yup. It used to be, "I can't wait to spend $500 on nvidia's next gen stuff. It's a little pricey but i know I'll have the best they have to offer for a whole year."

Now it's, "If I buy anything I'm getting ripped off and it won't last long before it gets replaced by something else in a few months".

No new release can change the performance of what I have.

Also, product cycles are generally longer now than in the past, and it's essentially never been possible, or economical, to stay at the top of things for long.
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So I am waiting here for Nvidia flagship for $500. Anything more is overpriced. People should be OK with $600, 650, 700, 750+ cards. Vote with wallet and the nightmare of high prices will end. As long as you feed them they will keep increasing prices. Stop being GPU addicts. Get some help.

I always vote with my wallet. It's why I haven't spent more than 10 dollars on a Windows license in a decade and haven't given Valve, EA, Blizzard, or Ubisoft one red cent in almost as long. It's also why I didn't buy a GTX 980 or 980ti (though the latter was tempting), any of the Radeon 300 series parts, or a Fiji.

I don't particularly care if I have to spend $750 to get what I want, but if I spend $750 dollars on a GPU this year, it will probably be the only new GPU I purchase for the next two years, barring some killer app that shows up in the meantime that justifies another purchase (which is highly unlikely, and even more unlikely to be a game).
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Back then release schedules, prices, and products were predictable and no-nonsense.

Fully unlocked high end flagship for $499. Cut down flagship for $329. Midrange for $229. Boom, that's it. No BS.

These days every product tier is a blatant rip off, prices have doubled tripled and almost quadrupled, and they have a dozen products in their pocket just waiting to milk customers with.

It's disgusting on every level and to pretend that they've always behaved this way is a lie.

I have to go back to the GTX 6800 Ultra days to find a line up that looks like that and it lasted for one generation.

Prior to that, we had cards that we modestly underclocked from flagship levels and given less VRAM to differentiate them, which often made the flagships even more of a rip off relative to lower-tier parts than they are today.

After the 6800 series, we had flagship parts well in excess of 500 dollars. The 7800 GTX was 600 dollars on launch and the the 7800 GTX 512 was almost 700. The 8800GTX was 650 and the 8800 Ultra was 800. Then G92 offered a bit of a respite, but once the 65nm lineup was fleshed out, it was a total mess...a trend that has generally continued.

Even if you throw ATI/AMD parts into the mix, we get maybe three generations out of dozens that ever looked like what you mention.
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Eh more like 50-70% faster. Went from a pair of 980's to a pair of 1080's. Compared single and SLI performance and I never gained twice the frame rate. Not even close. To be fair I did go from a pair of SC to a pair of Founder's Edition.

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/10341249/fs/8618001

Around 50% gains in 1080p.
Around 63% gains in 4K.
Around 70% in TimeSpy.

The higher up you go in resolution and the bigger the gap becomes. Probably because of the bandwidth of the 1080. It also has much better DX12 support and twice the RAM so I'm very happy with my 1080's.

Those stats are still pretty good, alot of videos iv seen on youtube are 80-100% gains stock vs stock.  Not sure on like a 980 1400mhz vs like a 1080 2100mhz though.  Guess it really depends on the game. 

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