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Originally Posted by cssorkinman View Post

GD - 80 is better in ultimate overclocks as well - 8370 mhz vs 8127 wink.gif.

It's pretty easy to understand why they do what they do - economics . Us overclocking types aren't a very large segment of their customers compared to the average user and for the most part those boards are fine pushing the most popular cpu's ( 46% dual cores by the last steam survey as an example) at stock speeds.

Exactly. The GD80 had too much quality VRM (low profit margin) and low sales. Plus, no dragons painted on the PCB to attract teenagers. The G46 class motherboards on the other hand, attract a much bigger audience. Not only gamers, but also casual builders that want to build for a home or office PC.

I remember when AM3+ was young, the biggest selling motherboard here was exactly the Asrock 970 Extreme3. It was deemed as the "super bang for buck". Some shops that show real time availability, were bringing them at 10:1 ratio compared to costlier models and they were selling out constantly. In computer forums, the "gurus" were reccommending them for budget gamers for more than a year. At some point the truth was discovered about the VRM limitations, but it was too late.

You can bet that that the G46 has brought much more money to MSI than the GD80, simply by the sheer amount they sold. You must also factor in, that many casual users, will never understand that there is a throttling or run software that shows temperatures or run stress test. They will be running the CPU at 0-80% loads 99% of the time. Here MSI doesn't really sell a lot as a brand, but sub 100 EUR motherboards are the norm for purchases. People don't know and don't pretend much.

The Asrock 970 extreme3 R2.0 has 4.3 out of 5 rating in my Amazon and 70 reviews: (mind you, the R1.0 was much more popular, but it's no longer listed).

https://www.amazon.it/Asrock-90-MXGNW0-A0UAYZ-970-Extreme3-R2-0/dp/B00C15B2DQ

In the reviews, you see all the time "Ottimo" (excellent) and "quality". biggrin.gif

The MSI G46 has only 11 reviews, but with 4.8 out of 5 score:

https://www.amazon.it/MSI-970A-G46-Scheda-Madre-Nero/dp/B0073JYZ48


More popular is the Asrock 980 DE USB3:

https://www.amazon.it/Asrock-980DE3-U3S3-Scheda-Madre/dp/B00D7SDTCI

With 34 reviews, 4 out 5 score and many reviews with "perfect", "excellent" and even "perfect for gaming" . biggrin.gif

Sabertooth and Gigabyte UD3P have about 130 reviews each.

And the absolute champion, is none other than.... the 55 EUR Gigabyte 78LMT USB3, of course!

https://www.amazon.it/Gigabyte-GA-78LMT-USB3-Scheda-Madre-Nero/dp/B009FC3YJ8/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1475342968&sr=1-1&keywords=gigabyte+78lmt

With 70 reviews only for the rev6 (you should have seen the previous revisions).


So why would MSI drop the G46... At least here it's in the hottest price zone...tongue.gif Heck, if Gigabyte had put SATA III on the 78LMT, it would have swept the floor under 100 EUR. I would have bought it too!
Edited by Undervolter - 10/1/16 at 10:43am
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post #22 of 24
Judging by consumer CPU reviews AMD would have made a killing selling FX processors (except the 9000 series).

The reviews of CPUs like the 8320E are uniformly high. On Newegg, for instance, you're talking 5 stars.

Yet they get so much mockery in forums and in reviews.
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Judging by consumer CPU reviews AMD would have made a killing selling FX processors (except the 9000 series).

The reviews of CPUs like the 8320E are uniformly high. On Newegg, for instance, you're talking 5 stars.

Yet they get so much mockery in forums and in reviews.

I think it's all about perception. Most of those people buying them were looking for a cheap upgrade and aren't exactly enthusiast class or even 'gamers' really.

When the 8350 (and most subsequent AMD parts) are released at <$200 MSRP and a sale usually crops up to take another $50 or so bite out of that price. Then you stack that up against equivalent Intel parts, it's kind of a no brainer to more fiscally conscious consumers who aren't asking for the biggest epeen of the neighborhood.

Look at those reviews, they say things like, 'It does exactly what I need it to do and is a pretty good price.'

Just my cents though.
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It's funny but that is what I've been saying. It does everything I ask of it and at a great price to performance ratio. For the price of a 4790K I can buy an FX and a great motherboard. The price difference is that large. Since I don't do things that require the max single thread performance the FX is the obvious choice.
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