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Well that is just like saying all ssd are hard drives but not all drives are ssd.
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Well that is just like saying all ssd are hard drives but not all drives are ssd.

I still feel it's an important distinction.

The main advantage of NVMe isn't necessarily PCI-E itself...it's the fact that there is significantly less overhead and much deeper queues than AHCI. All other things being equal, including the NAND used and the PCI-E interface, a high-end drive with an NVMe controller will be much faster than one with an AHCI controller.
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In other words it is very much so still steeling PCI lanes to function as current mobos do. meh
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Let me get it straight - they are marketing PCIe 3.0 on both boards but are limited to only 8x PCIe 3.0 lanes i.e., bandwidth wise this is equivalent to the the usual 16x PCIe 2.0 link? So why bother with this PCIe 3.0 then at all if the bandwidth available is the same as in the boards from the past 5+ years?
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That first board looks like a layout I could make use of. Two PCIe, NVMe M.2 onboard and a uATX FF.

 

Now make a mid-high end one with the same layout.

 

And lol at the comment section of that article. Only took the first comment to go all fanboy idiot, lmao.

 

Says a lot about WCCF.

   
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Let me get it straight - they are marketing PCIe 3.0 on both boards but are limited to only 8x PCIe 3.0 lanes i.e., bandwidth wise this is equivalent to the the usual 16x PCIe 2.0 link? So why bother with this PCIe 3.0 then at all if the bandwidth available is the same as in the boards from the past 5+ years?

Because it is PCI-E 3.0 and you need PCI-E 3.0 to deliver full bandwidth to any PCI-E 3.0 device. You also get the same bandwidth as double the number of PCI-E 2.0 lanes with half the number of traces.

There is no sense in integrating anything but the latest PCI-E specs into new CPUs, no matter how many lanes you decide to make available.
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Let me get it straight - they are marketing PCIe 3.0 on both boards but are limited to only 8x PCIe 3.0 lanes i.e., bandwidth wise this is equivalent to the the usual 16x PCIe 2.0 link? So why bother with this PCIe 3.0 then at all if the bandwidth available is the same as in the boards from the past 5+ years?

 

PCIE 3.0 4x/8x devices such as SSD's can only get their full bandwidth over PCIE 3.0 which these boards can do.

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wake me up when someone has information on the x370 chipset.

Hopefully the Zen cpu can support more lanes, than the AM4 bristol ridge. I don't ask for much, but it has to at least support pci 3.0 x 16 in at least 2 pci-e slots. Then have some pci-e lanes left for nvme drives.

Ie I want the ability to have crossfire/sli in x16 slots, and boot from a nvme drive.

Broadwell-e and future Skylake-e cannot be the only ones.
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That first board looks like a layout I could make use of. Two PCIe, NVMe M.2 onboard and a uATX FF.

Now make a mid-high end one with the same layout.

And lol at the comment section of that article. Only took the first comment to go all fanboy idiot, lmao.

Says a lot about WCCF.

That's every WCCF article. And there's always that one guy who goes into bent pin tirades.
post #20 of 25
I find it interesting that they are launching AM4 with Zen in 2017 and then plan to transition to AM4+ for Zen+ by 2019. Wondering if there will be backward compatibility like there was with transition from AM3 to AM3+.
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