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post #51 of 58
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Originally Posted by velocityx View Post

tbh, I wouldn't be surprised if some apple hater / samsung lover bought a 7 and just torched it and put the pics online to stir this up. with the amount of phones sold, if it was happening really we would have known by now. Samsung sold 2.5 mil and it was exploding left and right, this, I call hoax.

35 confirmed cases out of 2.5 million phones is "exploding left and right"??? Okaaaaay...

And the same thing could be said (and has been said) about some of the more dubious and unconfirmed cases of Note 7 "explosions" which conveniently started really taking off once everybody got wind of the recall. I'm sure NOBODY ever thought to torch their Note 7's with hopes of suing Samsung and getting their 15 minutes of fame??? No way that could ever happen, right??? rolleyes.gif
post #52 of 58
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

35 confirmed cases out of 2.5 million phones is "exploding left and right"??? Okaaaaay...

And the same thing could be said (and has been said) about some of the more dubious and unconfirmed cases of Note 7 "explosions" which conveniently started really taking off once everybody got wind of the recall. I'm sure NOBODY ever thought to torch their Note 7's with hopes of suing Samsung and getting their 15 minutes of fame??? No way that could ever happen, right??? rolleyes.gif

that doesn't count the cases popping up in china (samsung down playing counts)

the worst of the cases that one ignited on plane; if they had made mistake bye bye
post #53 of 58
I fully expect plenty of people worldwide to attempt to jump on the Samsung blame train in hopes of financial windfalls. That is simply human nature and now there is blood in the water so none of this particularly surprises me. That's not to say that there haven't been legit issues, there obviously have been, but you shouldn't just wholesale accept any and every report of a failure without anything more concrete than some random person's claims and a click bait internet article. Everybody is trying to profit from this situation at this point...
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the worst of the cases that one ignited on plane; if they had made mistake bye bye

The worst-case scenario cell phone fire is not taking down an airliner.
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Originally Posted by essanbee View Post

The worst-case scenario cell phone fire is not taking down an airliner.

you can't guarantee that and they initially made mistake but finally used the right equipment
bye bye could mean the passengers more than the plane
it all depends where the fire takes place and if its not put out big problems
Edited by hhuey5 - 10/1/16 at 8:54pm
post #56 of 58
It's not "only 35 exploded" ...

It's the simple fact of a phone exploding period ... this is getting way too weird;
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As battery technology is driven closer and closer to manufacturing limits these sort of things are bound to happen more frequently.

 

Remember how long it took to charge and discharge a lithium battery on the original iPhone? You charged it in some 4 hours and a charge would last for a couple of days with intensive usage.

 

That puts very little strain on the cell, especially during the charge cycle (the most sensitive part of a batery cycle).

 

Now, when you start charging cells at 1C and over and you have SoCs heating up locally to temperatures of 60-70degC and with burst power draws nearing 2.5-3W in some cases, the strain put on the cells is much bigger and it's much easier for a dud battery to not be so happy and puff up.

 

Now this wouldn't be an issue on an older device with slower charge and discharge cycles, but it is now.

 

Of course, the cell itself is likely to only bulge (and crack the device apart, which really isn't all that dangerous), the problem is when the cell hits a sharp edge while inflated (flip-die IC, sharp metal contact, screw end...) and the pouch ruptures.

 

That is when the real fire hazard exists and when things get dangerous.

   
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post #58 of 58
that iphone obviously suffered physical damage, the box was dented badly which means the phone was bent inside thus triggered the lithium in the battery.


if anyone ever gutted a phone with built in battery would realize the difference in the lithium package.

phones with removable battery has its battery wrapped in hard plastic to protect the lithium inside while phones with non removable battery just has a soft plastic wrap around the cell that can be damaged easily especially when it inflates.

i just blame phone manufactures prioritizing style over function creating these thin phones.
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