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Apples and oranges. I see well over 500 watts coming out of the wall every day, and when I was running Crossfire I was seeing over 700 watts from the wall.

 

Multiply that by your PSU's advertised efficiency. If that power consumption at the wall outlet is ONLY for your PSU, then you can reliably multiply it by .85 or .90 for 85% or 90% efficiency to see how much power your computer is pulling out of the PSU.

 

So, let's say you're seeing 550W at the wall outlet. If your PSU is 90% efficient while pulling 550W at the wall, then it means your computer is pulling 495W out of the PSU. The math here is 550 x .90. Does this mean that I'd recommend a 550W PSU to you? No. Why? Because 495W would probably result in a loud 550W PSU. The PSUs I recommend are all very high in quality, so I wouldn't be worried about anything else.

 

If your power consumption though were 400-450W, then I'd probably just simply tell you that you could easily power it with a good quality-made 550W PSU and then I'd let you respond to see what my recommendation should be. I'd discuss everything with you to make sure I know what to recommend.

 

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Nobody but nobody recommends a 500 watt psu anymore.

 

I have made countless 550W PSU recommendations on here and I have NEVER ONCE had the person come back to me a few years later saying, "You screwed me over man... now my PSU isn't enough for my upgrade". I only recommend a 550W PSU when I know for sure it will always be enough, and believe me, for many people, it is all they will ever need.


Edited by TwoCables - 9/29/16 at 8:21pm
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I gave up on a 500 watt psu 4 years ago on an intel system. It couldn't hack it then and is surely couldn't hack it today. Seriously, no one on this forum recommends a mere 500 watt psu. The watercooled guys sometimes use 2 psu systems!

And yes my puter is gaming more than it is not gaming. Eighteen hours of gaming happens and in fact I was up all night last night gaming. It was a surprise when the sun came up.

Bottom line: Good enough is NOT good enough on this forum. We've burned up enough hardware to know what works and what doesn't.
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post #13 of 32
Is really unsual the 100% load on a gaming scenario (GPU + CPU), With my old setup two 7970 overclocked to 1150mhz and the rest of the signature system. I measured from the wall 590W on GTA V (100% cpu - 99/99% GPU) they only game that pushed both card to the limit and the CPU to 100% almost all the time.
For a CF 270X a 1000w is totally overkill and i had to agree with 2cables new hardware tend to be more efficent, maybe in a few years high-end cards don't even need pci-e power rolleyes.gif.
A 750W is more than enough and you some have extra watts for O.C
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post #14 of 32

Sigh. Good grief. I am just going to wait for sb43's reply. I'm done with this stupid argument. I know what I'm talking about, I know that I know what I'm talking about, and that's all I have to say about that. If you want to think that I make 550W PSU recommendations all the time, then fine, that's not my problem. Most people on OCN know me and they know that I know what I'm talking about and they know that I only recommend the smaller PSUs when I know it's a 100% solid recommendation for that person. I take the time to carefully assess a person's needs and plans before I make my recommendation. If you don't want to believe that, then just wait until I can start having a discussion with sb43.

 

So until sb43 replies, I don't think I'll post in this thread again unless it becomes necessary. We'll see.


Edited by TwoCables - 9/29/16 at 8:54pm
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Indeed a 550w would have been plenty but to get back on topic I would go with the new TUF SABERTOOTH 990FX R3.0

 

Its what i would get if my Crosshair V Formula-Z were to die. "knocks on wood" I wish I had an m.2 slot :drool:


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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I could have sworn I saw people here and articles talking about how 32GB of RAM is too much for the AM3+ chips memory controller and actually bogs down system and RAM speeds and needs some pretty loose timings. I actually remember the distinct words, '32GB is a whale on AM3+.'

It was one of the reasons I pulled mine from 32 to 16 and noticed a good uptick in system responsiveness immediately, then being able to OC the memory better and really tighten the timings down.
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I built a system with a 7850k APU for my wife a few years ago and it has a 500 watt psu in it. It's overkill for that system but it makes zero noise as it is just loafing along.

My last 500 watt psu got tossed because when I upgraded the video card from an 8800gts to a gtx 275 I started getting graphics drivers crashes. I went around and around with nvidia until one day I touched the psu. "Oww it's hot! I replaced it with an 850 watt Thermaltake psu. I heard the same song and dance then. It's too much! It's overkill! It is still running cool and quiet in that system today with a 6970.

It's like having a truck engine. A big engine can haul the load at half throttle while a small engine can haul that load but is screaming away at full throttle and overheating.

Example: I was driving a race car online when there was a POP, a flash, and a cloud of smoke coming out of my puter which was now dead. Something exploded in that psu. There was the scorch marks and little droplets of metal sprayed all around the interior of that thing. I blew my engine!

My current 290x is the bottleneck of my system and the Seasonic 850 psu handles it fine and it only gets a little warm to the touch. I'm looking at a Fury and do you know its power requirements? A 750 watt psu is the minimum requirement. I don't have much headroom for one but the OP would be fine.

32gb of ram? Some people can do it and some can't. I'm happy with 16 gb.

OP has a Gigabyte board and is looking for a better board so......................

Arock users reported overheating followed by a short life span. When the board dies it sometimes takes the cpu with it.

The MSI 990 Gaming board did well for the one user who tried it as it is the only MSI board in the 5 ghz 24/7 club. My MSI GD80 could only do 4.92 ghz stable.

I made a mistake earlier when I recommended the ASUS Aura as it is a 970 chipset board. It is not so good for crossfire.

So that leaves the Sabertooth!
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Could we please stop this PSU argument? It's going nowhere. We're not listening to each other, so it's pointless. At this point, it's really just extremely annoying. All I truly care about is helping sb43, and this argument isn't going to help him in the least bit. It's just ruining his thread.


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Title says it all. I did however get a new EVGA 1000 watt PSU. i WANT IT TO SUPPORT MY 8320 cpu, AND 32 GIGS OF RAM


im biased sabertooth R2 or R3

 

We have 2 Sabertooth boards at home that are still running and I still have my original ASRock Fatal1ty 990 FX that got my FX-8150 up to 5 GHz stable, and is now running an X6-1100T 24/7 as a media and games server for well over 3 years.

So I can recommend either of those boards without a doubt.
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I'm a power junkie, soooooooooo. I don't have all 32 gigs of ram installed at the moment, running at 16. But I think I may reinstall it today. Not too worried about that
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AMD RYZEN 7 1800X 8-Core 3.6 GHz (4.0 GHz Turb...  ASRock X370 Taichi AM4 AMD Promontory X370 SAT...  PNY GeForce GTX 1080 DirectX 12 VCGGTX10808XGP...  G.SKILL TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin... 
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2 x WD Blue M.2 1TB Internal SSD Solid State Dr...  Noctua NH-D15 SSO2 D-Type Premium CPU Cooler, ...  NF-A14 iPPC-3000 PWM, 140mm PWM,AAO Frame Tech... Windows 10 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung 24 inch (x3) Corsair Gaming Keyboard  EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 P2 220-P2-1000-XR 80+ PLAT...  Corsair, Carbide Series Air 540 Silver Edition... 
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Razor Gaming Mouse POS On board 
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AMD FX-8320 Motherboard Model: ...  PNY GeForce GTX 1080 DirectX 12 VCGGTX10808XGP... G.Skill DDR3-1866 PC3-14900 8192 MB x 4 
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Samsung 840 Pro SSD Western Digital 2 TB Hard Drive Green Label Western Digital 1 TB Hard Drive Green Label Samsung EVO 850 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Opticart DVD RW AD-52805 [DVD = R DL] Noctua NH-D15 6 heatpipe with Dual NF-A15 140mm... Noctua NF-A14 iPPC-3000 PWM 140x140x25 mm Case Fan Noctua NF-14 140mm case fans (x3) 
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Windows 10 Enterprise 64 Bit SAMSUNG C550 T24C550ND Charcoal Gray 23.6" 2ms ...  (X2) Samsung S24D390HL 23.6" LED LCD Monitor -... Generic 
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Rosewill Photon Series 1200W Continuous@40°C,8... Corsair Carbide Series Air 540 High Airflow ATX... Logitec Logitec 
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Generic Logitec 1 x HyperX Cloud II Gaming Headset with 7.1 Vir... XBOX 360 wireles game pad 1ST PC CORP. FC-FANATIC-S Lamptron 5.25" 5-chan... 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD RYZEN 7 1800X 8-Core 3.6 GHz (4.0 GHz Turb...  ASRock X370 Taichi AM4 AMD Promontory X370 SAT...  PNY GeForce GTX 1080 DirectX 12 VCGGTX10808XGP...  G.SKILL TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin... 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingOS
2 x WD Blue M.2 1TB Internal SSD Solid State Dr...  Noctua NH-D15 SSO2 D-Type Premium CPU Cooler, ...  NF-A14 iPPC-3000 PWM, 140mm PWM,AAO Frame Tech... Windows 10 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung 24 inch (x3) Corsair Gaming Keyboard  EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 P2 220-P2-1000-XR 80+ PLAT...  Corsair, Carbide Series Air 540 Silver Edition... 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Razor Gaming Mouse POS On board 
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