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I mean just a standard 8 port switch will run you almost 1000$, the network nic's are 300-400$ a piece. I'm wired for it, but until the prices on infrastructure comes down I won't bite.
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Ruibbish!! biggrin.gif

Just attach your CAT8 to the end of your CAT5E and pull it through! Easy!

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Some places cant do that. Hopefully in the massive buildings with 700+ drops some people are talking about here they still can, as I do not think those big office buildings are considered light commercial, but for the any homes and light commercial grade buildings the construction crews have not used conduit for wiring (electrical or low voltage (networking))in a long time. Instead they staple the cable to the studs mad.gifmad.gifmad.gif which makes it pretty much impossible to ever upgrade wiring unless you rip apart the walls.
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When will routers adopt the standard? Chances are they will sell entirely new routers, rather than provide firmware upgrades to existing gigabit routers. Typical greed.

Routers will need entirely new network interfaces to support the new standard just like everything else will require new interfaces. TBH bit the bullet got a LB6M, converted everything to 10G and haven't looked back.
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Some places cant do that. Hopefully in the massive buildings with 700+ drops some people are talking about here they still can, as I do not think those big office buildings are considered light commercial, but for the any homes and light commercial grade buildings the construction crews have not used conduit for wiring (electrical or low voltage (networking))in a long time. Instead they staple the cable to the studs mad.gifmad.gifmad.gif which makes it pretty much impossible to ever upgrade wiring unless you rip apart the walls.

In hindsight, I wished that I had been more proactive about the wiring when my house was built, because even though they used Cat 5E, it was terminated with RJ-11 jacks for POTS. I thought that was an iffy move in 2008 and utterly asinine today since hardly anyone uses POTS anymore. I don't want to repurpose it and splice it just to get a pathetic 10/100Mbps throughput. I would like to tear that junk out altogether, but it's stapled to the studs, so it stays and I get to keep a useless wall plate for RJ-11 in every room. I hate how lazily crews set this stuff up for most residential builds nowadays. Worst of all, I have a slab foundation, so there's no basement to run the wiring. It has to go up through the attic and holes drilled through the second floor floorboard and sill plates to drop back down to the first floor. It will all be done in due time and all my waiting just enables me to get higher-spec cable, but just looking at the existing RJ-11 jacks makes me angry. DECT phones were available then so RJ-11s in each room were outdated, never mind that people were already starting to ditch home phones altogether.
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...this is for home/SMB users. Enterprise already has 10GbE and 40GbE.

And 1000' rolls of cable can add up quickly.
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In hindsight, I wished that I had been more proactive about the wiring when my house was built, because even though they used Cat 5E, it was terminated with RJ-11 jacks for POTS. I thought that was an iffy move in 2008 and utterly asinine today since hardly anyone uses POTS anymore. I don't want to repurpose it and splice it just to get a pathetic 10/100Mbps throughput. I would like to tear that junk out altogether, but it's stapled to the studs, so it stays and I get to keep a useless wall plate for RJ-11 in every room. I hate how lazily crews set this stuff up for most residential builds nowadays. Worst of all, I have a slab foundation, so there's no basement to run the wiring. It has to go up through the attic and holes drilled through the second floor floorboard and sill plates to drop back down to the first floor. It will all be done in due time and all my waiting just enables me to get higher-spec cable, but just looking at the existing RJ-11 jacks makes me angry. DECT phones were available then so RJ-11s in each room were outdated, never mind that people were already starting to ditch home phones altogether.
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I'm in the exact same boat... sitting here for 2 years on re-wiring my house with gigabit ethernet, with the option of just re-using what's already installed for 10/100Mbps as well. It wasn't the biggest purchase decision, but probably should have been. Considering the cost to move up to 10Gbps, I'll probably just continue sitting.
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In hindsight, I wished that I had been more proactive about the wiring when my house was built, because even though they used Cat 5E, it was terminated with RJ-11 jacks for POTS. I thought that was an iffy move in 2008 and utterly asinine today since hardly anyone uses POTS anymore. I don't want to repurpose it and splice it just to get a pathetic 10/100Mbps throughput. I would like to tear that junk out altogether, but it's stapled to the studs, so it stays and I get to keep a useless wall plate for RJ-11 in every room. I hate how lazily crews set this stuff up for most residential builds nowadays. Worst of all, I have a slab foundation, so there's no basement to run the wiring. It has to go up through the attic and holes drilled through the second floor floorboard and sill plates to drop back down to the first floor. It will all be done in due time and all my waiting just enables me to get higher-spec cable, but just looking at the existing RJ-11 jacks makes me angry. DECT phones were available then so RJ-11s in each room were outdated, never mind that people were already starting to ditch home phones altogether.

Why not just ditch the phone jacks and use it only for Internet? Unless you for some odd reason still have a home phone line. tongue.gif
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In hindsight, I wished that I had been more proactive about the wiring when my house was built, because even though they used Cat 5E, it was terminated with RJ-11 jacks for POTS. I thought that was an iffy move in 2008 and utterly asinine today since hardly anyone uses POTS anymore. I don't want to repurpose it and splice it just to get a pathetic 10/100Mbps throughput. I would like to tear that junk out altogether, but it's stapled to the studs, so it stays and I get to keep a useless wall plate for RJ-11 in every room. I hate how lazily crews set this stuff up for most residential builds nowadays. Worst of all, I have a slab foundation, so there's no basement to run the wiring. It has to go up through the attic and holes drilled through the second floor floorboard and sill plates to drop back down to the first floor. It will all be done in due time and all my waiting just enables me to get higher-spec cable, but just looking at the existing RJ-11 jacks makes me angry. DECT phones were available then so RJ-11s in each room were outdated, never mind that people were already starting to ditch home phones altogether.

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Why not just ditch the phone jacks and use it only for Internet? Unless you for some odd reason still have a home phone line. tongue.gif

Yeah, can't you just re-terminate with cat5 or cat6 keystones? If you already have cat5e you're golden. Unless it's all daisy chained and not individual drops.



Keystones cost about a buck each and the punch down tool is $5 on ebay.
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In hindsight, I wished that I had been more proactive about the wiring when my house was built, because even though they used Cat 5E, it was terminated with RJ-11 jacks for POTS. I thought that was an iffy move in 2008 and utterly asinine today since hardly anyone uses POTS anymore. I don't want to repurpose it and splice it just to get a pathetic 10/100Mbps throughput. I would like to tear that junk out altogether, but it's stapled to the studs, so it stays and I get to keep a useless wall plate for RJ-11 in every room. I hate how lazily crews set this stuff up for most residential builds nowadays. Worst of all, I have a slab foundation, so there's no basement to run the wiring. It has to go up through the attic and holes drilled through the second floor floorboard and sill plates to drop back down to the first floor. It will all be done in due time and all my waiting just enables me to get higher-spec cable, but just looking at the existing RJ-11 jacks makes me angry. DECT phones were available then so RJ-11s in each room were outdated, never mind that people were already starting to ditch home phones altogether.


 why not just remove the old wall plate and install a RJ-45 plate?

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 why not just remove the old wall plate and install a RJ-45 plate?

is almost no use, the phone line is all chained together for a single line or maybe 2 lines for the same jack, so one RJ11 jack can take you to nowhere...


this is stupid cuz still some companies but more of networking guys still think this is a good idea to do instead of just using telephone wire...
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