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When you wash your hands too often and your hands aren't oily, there is more friction created because they're cleaner i guess. Choose your poison.
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the only time ive had a kyboard start to stick was when i had a membrane keyboard and spilled soda on it and my cmstorm devastator that i had for about a year and the left shift would start to stick. I get dust on all my stuff and it doesnt get under the keycaps. mostly on the keycaps and on the backplate but if it gets under your keycaps it must be very very dirty/dusty in your home. where do you live if you dont mind me asking?

Edit: I use a logitech g303 with hotline games feet and a razer goliuathus control and there isnt much friction. If i use my corsair mm300 if feels like it isnt touching anything. Ive used the g303 everyday fora bout a year now and it just has shiny spots from use. I used to play competitive starcraft 2 as well and the setup i have works wonders for me. and for my keyboard now I got a e-element z-88 rgb on amazon and that is a great keyboard. I type pretty heavily and eat while at my computer quite often and my keys arent dirty much. also is there any visible wear on the mouse and mousepad?
Edited by OrangeRaptor - 9/30/16 at 2:54pm
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post #13 of 26
A couple of pics can help to see the damage on your peripherials and we can give better solutions
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post #14 of 26
Address the issues.

A Steel or Aluminum mousing surface will not wear out like plastic or cloth does. If you're pushing REALLY hard, you'll just have to periodically use acetone to clean out the plastic in the Metal pores.
Teflon replacement pads/tape for the bottom of the mouse, atop a smoother surface may last longer as well.

Invest in a MX Black, red, or MX Brown(Blues and other clicky switches, etc get less clicky and feel weird when dirty) keyswitch keyboard. The actuation stays fairly consistent even when dirty. The Mechanical key switches are FAR more durable than membrane keyboards or Consumer/Enthusiast mechanical switches. Cherry MX makes Keyboards and Key Switches for Retail(Many different greasy fingers, hairs floating about, etc), commercial(dusty warehouses, etc), and industrial(CNC milling machines with dirty oily hands) use. The keycaps come off with ease and allow for quick and easy cleaning. I'd also recommend investing in a Metal body keyboard as the plastic will wear and discolor where your skin touches it(experience). You can even get all Metal keycaps, though the ones made from zinc will get aesthetic defects from our acidic skin. Aluminum Keycaps would be ideal, or double-shot plastic ones. As they wear, you will not lose the character on the key.

As far as hairs and dust in your stuff. Pick up(or build) a cheap air cleaner. You might find your head clearer even, but it will definitely cut down on dust and free-floating hair accumulation.

I've seen controllers owned by people with worn out PC peripherals(he was non-PC gamer at the time), and very sweaty/greasy hands. They get gunk built-up quickly around the buttons and the base of the analog sticks. They also wear smooth the plastic or wear off the finish on painted controllers rather rapidly, and the soft plastic/rubber that makes up the tops of the analog sticks decompose, discolor, and tear.
Biologically, if you sweat more, secrete oil more and have a more acidic PH, you're going to wear peripherals out faster Add atop that the mousing/keyboarding equivalent of how I write with a pen(noticeable indentation several pages behind the page I write on), and nothing but the most durable will last for any length of time.

If you're not willing to or capable of changing your habits, then it's time to change your equipment and environment to suit you thumb.gif
post #15 of 26
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Plastic mousepad is bad, because mouse is to hard to stop and lod is high and it still wear out fast, i had long time ago aluminium and it wore out very fast, there was spot at middle which was rough as **** after couple months

there are a few exceptions (hard pads) that do last longer. as for your aluminium pad, i doubt that was aluminium. mouse feet will definitely not wear an aluminium surface down. glass is also an option.

anyway, are you sure you don't have some kind of condition?
because i'm pretty sure my hands are sweatier than average, but as long as i keep wiping down my mice, it's never really a problem.
i mean, the texture of my mice does wear down over time, but not excessively fast or anything. i just use a piece of microfiber cloth and some warm water to wipe down my mice a couple of times a day.


as for keyboards, ABS keycaps wear down fast. if you haven't tried so already, look into PBT keycaps.
post #16 of 26
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Hello,
i can't play and i am quitting playing games, because every mouse i buy wore out in couple days.
I never touch my peripherals with dirty hands, but dust is insane, even i vacuum regularly and hairs can get into keyboard.
I have logitech g900 and steelseries qck, first day it was amazing and second day i already struggled to aim, i tried razer goliathus and zowie gsr yet and it was still bad.
Previously i had razer deathadder and goliathus, which after weak started to rub, i had that setup 2 years, but already after week it was suboptimal.
I have coolermaster novatouch tkl and keys already feels sticky and keycaps completely worn out and are very unpleasant to touch + my hands are sweating a lot, my fingers stick to keycaps after couple minutes of playing.
I tried disassemble it and flush switches with water, didn't help.
When i had this keyboard completely new, it felt like mind reading, now it feels like keyboard for 5 bucks.
I would literally need new mouse and mousepad and keyboard everyday, so i could be able to play.
I won't be buying new one, i already claimed warranty once on my g900 and it is same rubbing trash.
I am glad, because at least, i will start to do more useful stuff.
These mice and keyboards are very trash, i don't do anything with it and it is completely trash after moment, i won't buy new mouse ever.

*EDIT*

If dust is insane, that sounds like an environmental issue. Not much advice can fix this issue other than find your source of dust and look at better options to stop it.

Is it the plastic shell of the mouse that is rubbing off or your mousepad wearing or both? Certainly with either this should not happen, pics of either would be helpful to identify exactly the source of this wear. Same goes for the keyboard, but its very possible this is because of the cheap ABS plastic keycaps on the keyboard. Try a set of thick PBT and possibly that may help with sticking but if its something thats happening because your hands are too sweaty then again thats an environmental issue. Too hot? possibly Excessive Sweaty Palm condition? (may sound like a stretch but I know a few close friends that have this and is a very real thing). It doesn't seem fair to call these products trash when I dont think anyone here experienced such extreme wear like this before and its really hard to get a good diagnosis from your description, rather more of a rant.

By "flushing switches" do you mean soaking the keycaps in water? or do you actually mean flushing water through your switches?
Edited by drazah - 10/4/16 at 8:22am
post #17 of 26
Can you invest in an air filter? If you have central heating or cooling, has the air filter been replaced recently? Do you have any pets that sleep near the computer?

It sounds like you environment accumulates dust at about 10x the normal rate. I have a Razer Goliathus, and I need to wash the dust and dirt about twice a year - dusty after one day is insane.
post #18 of 26
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*EDIT*

If dust is insane, that sounds like an environmental issue. Not much advice can fix this issue other than find your source of dust and look at better options to stop it.

That's an understatement.

From the OPs description it sounds like he's living in a tent on Mars with a perpetual sand storm taking place outside. I've been working with PCs since the 1980s, been in tech support/helpdesk/IT in some capacity since the mid 1990s, and have been the head of my employers IT department since 2002, and I've never experienced anything even remotely as destructive as what the OP describes.

The whole idea that his environment is so dusty and dirty that it is essentially destroying mice and keyboards in a matter of days is unreal. I've taken laptops with me camping, and even living in a tent in Great Dunes National Park or White Sands National Monument for a week or two I've never experienced anything like his description. I'm not even sure I could cause this sort of damage to mice and keyboards so quickly, without introducing sand and dust into the components myself with the deliberate intent of destroying the hardware.

I almost feel like this thread is trolling. In my experience the claims are bordering on unbelievable. And I have a LOT of experience dealing with years old hardware that is caked with dust and grime, yet continues to work with little to no problems. In fact I've always been amazed as to how resilient mice and keyboards are despite many years of abuse in the hands of temporary, unhappy, uncaring temporary employees.
post #19 of 26
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I almost feel like this thread is trolling. In my experience the claims are bordering on unbelievable.
word, thats what I was thinking too when I first read it lol.
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I almost feel like this thread is trolling. In my experience the claims are bordering on unbelievable.
word, thats what I was thinking too when I first read it lol.
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