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Been testing out some new displays the last few weeks.

Acer XB271HU - 1440p - IPS
Asus MG279Q - 1440p - IPS
Benq XL2730Z - 1440p - TN
Benq XL2720Z - 1080p - TN
Benq XL2430T - 1080p - TN

The 24" XL2430T is the winner for me! (money isn't a factor in this decision)

I'm not a casual gamer, but I do play at a "pro" level in BF4 if that makes sense.

I have to say after playing around with these monitors for the last few days IPS is overrated and 1440p isn't all that it's hyped out to be.

With the correct ICC profile and proper tuning the 2430T is almost equal to the image quality I get from IPS.

I find that with the small 24" screen it's easier to acquire target location and just feels faster overall.

Keep in mind I'm not one for 100% accurate color and a "dull image", I like vibrance in game.

What makes the monitor a winner to me is the one that looks the best in game and gives me the biggest advantage so obviously don't want to run the black equalizer cranked up washing out colors.

With my Benq 2430T I can see difference from 0-95...

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If you have any questions about the above monitors I've tested, please ask.

I've got the monitor perfectly aligned centered up with my eyes, no viewing angle issues here...

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This thread is gonna get so much hate i will get my gear ready gunner2.gif
     
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LOL, So how do you like your 24" 144hz LG? I was going to try that one out also, but wasn't available at the time.


For the 1440p fans, Honestly that Dell S2417DG 24" 8bit TN 1440p 144hz is tempting.
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Originally Posted by Awsan View Post

This thread is gonna get so much hate i will get my gear ready gunner2.gif

You mean it is going to get hate because it is an opinion positioned like a statement?

To the OP, to each his own.

I truly believe that people saying they only want IPS is silly. I have a friend who will ONLY buy IPS but doesn't do anything with it that requires color accuracy. That said there is a huge difference in quality and your statement about ""dull image", I like vibrance in game." is as silly as people who have to have IPS without even trying something else or doing an actual comparison.

I'll explain...

If the game developer wanted it to be vibrant then that would be what you got. The definition of vibrant seems to be extremely inaccurate hyper up colors. Vibrance is something that came about because of displays in stores. Instead of color accuracy manufacturers wanted their TVs and Monitors to stand out and color accuracy wasn't the way to do it.

That said you can ruin the color accuracy and contrast on even the highest quality IPS monitors. I can go right into the monitors menu system or into AMDs control panel and vibrant the heck out of my display.


Anyways all that said in my opinion for gaming IPS just isn't the right monitor and either paying a ton more or getting reduced ability in other areas.
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Hey I replied to your post on Hardforum PM but you didn't get back to me frown.gif
The XL2430T looks fine if you don't touch the color vibrance setting--which is horribly bugged, but I can't recommend the XL2430T over the XL2720Z because of the gamer 1-2-3 preset profile bug, which I explained to you in PM. The XL2720Z can also see all of the gradients just as easily.

Here's some good ones.
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/contrast.php
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/gamma_calibration.php
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/white.php

The XL2735 is out, but it does not single strobe at 60-85hz, and unless someone can test and confirm, it probably does not accept Vertical Total tweaks (even though it can use a Vertical Total up to 1849) to lower strobe crosstalk.

*edit* nvm I saw the reply now. I could've sworn it wasn't there earlier...
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BenQ isn't worth it. People should stop buying their panels unless they to fix their gross pixel overdrive. Back in the day, BenQ was worth it because it was one of the very few and maybe the only to offer PWM flicker free 144hz, but now every gaming display has a PWM free panel. You essentially pay more for a worse panel and a goofy wired remote.
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LOL, So how do you like your 24" 144hz LG? I was going to try that one out also, but wasn't available at the time.


For the 1440p fans, Honestly that Dell S2417DG 24" 8bit TN 1440p 144hz is tempting.

I love this monitor it was around 130$ dollars cheaper than the Benq XL2430T so i went for it, and hell yea the colors are amazing and its fast as hell
     
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17" crt > all kookoo.gif
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I almost went with the 27" 2720z it's a great buy for the money and performed very good, but the smaller size of the 24" 2430t has a bigger advantage when gaming competitively. I just kept coming back to the 24" with having both on my desk. I honestly still think the color is better on it for gaming I was able to achieve a slightly brighter, more accurate image with less washout of colors. Have you done side by side comparison? I even swapped DP cables thinking that could make a difference but the 2430t just always looked better. I spent a few days of research tuning each of them probably invested about 20hrs into it lol. In regards the digital vibrance I have that set to 7 I have noticed that if you pass 7 it totally over saturates everything and you start losing details of the tests that you linked. What issues did you experience? As for profile, I leave it on one. The only thing I have set on the s switch is the black equalizer is on the top setting so I can bring it 1 on really dark maps. Anything past that totally washes put the colors. My previous monitors were an amazing CRT the Sony GDM-F520 FD Trinitron @ 170hz and a Samsung 27" S27A750D 120hz TN.
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I don't own the XL2430T and I never have had it in my possession. Only other people have. The last person who was posting about the bugs with CV and the gamer presets in this forum

http://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1848&start=180

And which "profile" are you talking about?
Are you talking about "Button 1" on the S-switch?

or are you talking about STANDARD MODE?
Because the "Difference" in color vibrancy you are experiencing might be because of the profile bug. The XL2430T should look IDENTICAL to the XL2720Z if both are set into :

1) SRGB mode.
2) Standard mode, with black equalizer turned off, Color Vibrance set to "10", color temp set to user, 100, 100, 100. Refresh rate set to 60hz (important, as 24" TN panels drop in gamma as the refresh rate increases; the XL2720Z does not).
Edited by Falkentyne - 10/1/16 at 6:04pm
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