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So originally I had planned to run my 932 forever. Well forever is now and I want a small a more silent case so I don't have to hear HDDs or fans as much. My question is how good is the define r5 air flow? I want to stick to air cooling and don't want to starve my Cryorig H5 or Nitro 470. I had originally picked the h440 white but found out it's airflow sucks so looking at the White window Define R5. Ty for any answers and info
Edited by Echoa - 10/1/16 at 11:24pm
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R5 works very well with better front intake fans. Many have found that stock fans can't flow enough air and change them to something like Phanteks PH-F140SP (variable voltage) or PH-F140XP (PWM).

But as long as you have HDDs you will probably be able to hear them. The quieter a system gets, the more things we hear. I know, it's sounds illogical, but less sound is more noticeable. biggrin.gif

Also if Fractal Design is still using the rubber grommet & screw HDD mount, do not tighten screws! Just screw them in until they are against the rubber. Any tighter and they start telegraphing HDD sounds. wink.gif
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R5 works very well with better front intake fans. Many have found that stock fans can't flow enough air and change them to something like Phanteks PH-F140SP (variable voltage) or PH-F140XP (PWM).

But as long as you have HDDs you will probably be able to hear them. The quieter a system gets, the more things we hear. I know, it's sounds illogical, but less sound is more noticeable. biggrin.gif

Also if Fractal Design is still using the rubber grommet & screw HDD mount, do not tighten screws! Just screw them in until they are against the rubber. Any tighter and they start telegraphing HDD sounds. wink.gif

I'm not expecting the sound to completely go away just less tongue.gif there's nothing between my fans/HDDs and my ears atm lol just want to dampen it some. Thanks for the fan and HDD mount tip
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I'm not expecting the sound to completely go away just less tongue.gif there's nothing between my fans/HDDs and my ears atm lol just want to dampen it some. Thanks for the fan and HDD mount tip
Define R5 is a good case, just factor in the cost of a couple good front fans. I've found raising the case up on a open center castor base or on 30mm blocks (kids blocks / hockey pucks) with a couple good front intakes and all case fans speed controlled same as components give a very quiet and cool system.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1491876/ways-to-better-cooling-airflow-cooler-fan-data/40_20#post_23754692
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Define R5 is a good case, just factor in the cost of a couple good front fans. I've found raising the case up on a open center castor base or on 30mm blocks (kids blocks / hockey pucks) with a couple good front intakes and all case fans speed controlled same as components give a very quiet and cool system.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1491876/ways-to-better-cooling-airflow-cooler-fan-data/40_20#post_23754692

yea i went with your suggestion of the phanteks (they just happen to match color wise too biggrin.gif) I was just worried there was going to be a huge temp difference but after looking into things it seems the Define R5 will do pretty well and with the better fans maybe even a little better than my Haf 932 which doesnt exactly have what would be termed "good" fans in it >.>

Edit: Yea those phanteks do about 30cfm more than my current fans and only one of my fans has close to their static pressure but is 6db louder, and .07a more current and lower air flow to boot.
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yea i went with your suggestion of the phanteks (they just happen to match color wise too biggrin.gif) I was just worried there was going to be a huge temp difference but after looking into things it seems the Define R5 will do pretty well and with the better fans maybe even a little better than my Haf 932 which doesnt exactly have what would be termed "good" fans in it >.>

Edit: Yea those phanteks do about 30cfm more than my current fans and only one of my fans has close to their static pressure but is 6db louder, and .07a more current and lower air flow to boot.
The posted specs are free airflow so not really accurate, but they also have much higher static pressure specs, meaning the will move way more air through restrictive things like small vents, and filters. Having case fans function with variable speed control means components get the airflow they need when they need, not just at one specific load range.
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The posted specs are free airflow so not really accurate, but they also have much higher static pressure specs, meaning the will move way more air through restrictive things like small vents, and filters. Having case fans function with variable speed control means components get the airflow they need when they need, not just at one specific load range.

yea, just on the specs alone (even not enitely accurate) theyre better, my 5$ fans in reality probably dont get close xD
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I actually use an RF5. It sits next to my monitor at a distance from my ear that ranges from a foot when I am typing to two feet when I am browsing. Switch out those stock fans if you like, but only if you are dissatisfied with them.

 

The R5 comes with one fan in the front and one in the back. Since I remove the rear grill of all my cases (see, e.g., item 2 in my sig), I have no need of an exhaust fan. I put both in front.

 

If you remove your rear grill you can try both stock fans as intake fans. Swap them for new fans only if you are dissatisfied with your stock fans: you might like your Fractal fans.

 

For replacement 140mm fans I recommend, depending on your noise tolerance, the Thermalright X-Silent, Noctrua A14 FLX (it has 2 adapters that essentially give you three fan choices for the price of one fan), and the Yate Loon D14SL-12 (LED is optional; these are very cheap fans; you can afford to buy extra in case one clicks). I cannot comment on the Phanteks as I have not had a pair to test.

 

But if you get an R5, do note that the bottom filter pulls out from the front so you won't have to move your case if you have bottom intakes. The front of the case has a door so it is very easy to clean. It does have a rear "grill" that is too restrictive. Removing it gives you a quieter case no matter which case you use. I use two NF-A14 ULN's, but they cost me nothing. I have found they are only marginally quieter than the stock fans. I found that using two stock fans was hard to beat. YMMV.

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I actually use an RF5. It sits next to my monitor at a distance from my ear that ranges from a foot when I am typing to two feet when I am browsing. Switch out those stock fans if you like, but only if you are dissatisfied with them.

The R5 comes with one fan in the front and one in the back. Since I remove the rear grill of all my cases (see, e.g., item 2 in my sig), I have no need of an exhaust fan. I put both in front.

If you remove your rear grill you can try both stock fans as intake fans. Swap them for new fans only if you are dissatisfied with your stock fans: you might like your Fractal fans.

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But if you get an R5, do note that the bottom filter pulls out from the front so you won't have to move your case if you have bottom intakes. The front of the case has a door so it is very easy to clean. It does have a rear "grill" that is too restrictive. Removing it gives you a quieter case no matter which case you use. I use two NF-A14 ULN's, but they cost me nothing. I have found they are only marginally quieter than the stock fans. I found that using two stock fans was hard to beat. YMMV.

Thanks for the info, I actually decided to go with the Define S instead since it's essentially the r5 - a few drive bays and 2 of the Phanteks because I like the look. This will leave me enough to build my new desk too since the S is 59.99 right now vs 110 for the r5 (for drive bays I won't use and a paint job)
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