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Originally Posted by Dragonsyph View Post

Intel Desktop enthusiast chips don't have IGPUs.  And mobile chips are completely different than desktop. 
There are already kaby lake cpus in laptops. 

The higher end mobile chips are using the same die just clocked lower. Only the U series are really different. I understand from what you are saying that you don't consider the Core i7-6700K an enthusiast chip. The point really being is that due to this monopoly shifting the CPU's(which also cost considerably more) without IGPU into another segment which requires a different socket and overall more expensive board etc.. is just a crappy move from Intel which is pure unadulterated greed.

I would be willing to bet most gamer's would trade the wasted IGPU space for cores.
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kabylake to skylake won't be a 40% upgrade in real world applications

edit: i would not like to see the iGPU go, I think anyone with common sense doesn't want to see that go. yes, i use a discreet GPU. I don't see the point of having a completely unusable PC if the GPU ever fails, needs replacing, between upgrades, etc.

that iGPU can be a life-saver, no need to see it go

that's a matter of perspective. I have 3 old GPU's just sitting around that can be used if my current GPU dies, or If I need to RMA and have a functional computer. No doubt IGPU can be a convenience for some but never in 5 years have I ever used the IGPU in my CPU. the IGPU took a massive amount of die space up from sandybridge on forward.

Just take a look @ the current Skylake 4 Core CPU and how much of that space could have been used for cores, seeing as the IGPU takes up half the size of the die. I would imagine most PC gamer's or any enthusiast would take cores over the IGPU.

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that's a matter of perspective. I have 3 old GPU's just sitting around that can be used if my current GPU dies, or If I need to RMA and have a functional computer. No doubt IGPU can be a convenience for some but never in 5 years have I ever used the IGPU in my CPU. the IGPU took a massive amount of die space up from sandybridge on forward.

Just take a look @ the current Skylake 4 Core CPU and how much of that space could have been used for cores, seeing as the IGPU takes up half the size of the die. I would imagine most PC gamer's or any enthusiast would take cores over the IGPU.


I never understood It either but replacing GPU with more cores or removing it for smaller CPU it not going to effect price.
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On the other hand- Have any one saw/read any leaks when 200-series motherboards is supposed to hit market? Shouldn't be same time as Kaby or little earlier?
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On the other hand- Have any one saw/read any leaks when 200-series motherboards is supposed to hit market? Shouldn't be same time as Kaby or little earlier?

Man I am still on Sandybridge, lol. I'm a computer enthusiast at heart so I love reading about any new emerging products and look forward in seeing what the 200 series of boards will offer. With that being said I'm going to wait for ZEN to see how Intel reacts and from there on then, buy whatever is the best bang for buck.
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Man I am still on Sandybridge, lol. I'm a computer enthusiast at heart so I love reading about any new emerging products and look forward in seeing what the 200 series of boards will offer. With that being said I'm going to wait for ZEN to see how Intel reacts and from there on then, buy whatever is the best bang for buck.

I am just asking, relax. Don't judge biggrin.gif. I am planning to upgrade next year so I will also have a close eye on AMD. Belive me- I would LOVE to see both Zen and Polaris to at least trade blows with 6700k and 1080.

I will still pick Nvidia because I have G-Sync monitor and plan to upgrade to another G-Sync.

But still AMD success means less smaller prices for Nvidia/Intel so that I always a win for me scenario.

Monopoly is win only for monopolist.
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I am just asking, relax. Don't judge biggrin.gif. I am planning to upgrade next year so I will also have a close eye on AMD. Belive me- I would LOVE to see both Zen and Polaris to at least trade blows with 6700k and 1080.

I'm sorry if I seemed to came off abrasive, I was simply responding in humorist manner when I mentioned how old my currently platform is.guitar.gif
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I would like to see a non HEDT i7 with 6 cores, average oc of 4.6-4.7, a little more cache, 32-36 PCIE lanes (see Puget Systems PCIE lane Titan XP tests), and at least 30% single core performance over Devils Canyon (obviously multi will be better). I wouldn't mind if the price was $450 or so, just as long as the performance is there. Now I know that sounds a lot HEDT, but the problem with HEDT, for me, is the total cost. The middle model (say 5930K) was usually pretty expensive comparatively (to 4790K). Add in the premium for an HEDT mobo and it really starts to make more sense to just go consumer grade chipset. This chip would bridge those world.
    
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I would like to see a non HEDT i7 with 6 cores, average oc of 4.6-4.7, a little more cache, 32-36 PCIE lanes (see Puget Systems PCIE lane Titan XP tests), and at least 30% single core performance over Devils Canyon (obviously multi will be better). I wouldn't mind if the price was $450 or so, just as long as the performance is there. Now I know that sounds a lot HEDT, but the problem with HEDT, for me, is the total cost. The middle model (say 5930K) was usually pretty expensive comparatively (to 4790K). Add in the premium for an HEDT mobo and it really starts to make more sense to just go consumer grade chipset. This chip would bridge those world.

Precisely. I'd be happy with a 6 core consumer CPU but it costs intel nothing to add them this is why we need a competitor since all we have gotten from Intel since Sandybridge is stagnation. I wouldn't be surprised to see in the near future if ZEN turns out to be any good, Intel suddenly offering us 6 cores at consumer prices, instead of exclusively tying it to the expensive X** platforms.
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Feels like it will be a long time before I'll see a substantial increase in gaming from upgrading from my 5820k in my main rig or my 6600k in my HTPC.
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