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iGPU is such a waste for most of us here. (read minority) In practice I've only turned it on once when I built my computer prior to my Titan X's showing up. So at least I had a working PC. To me it's just a near useless Maintenance mode.

I'd love to have that die space as something usefull for me now. Next time I'll bite the bullet and get one of the performance CPU's with no iGPU.
There aren't any. If found articles saying that the P ver. is lacking an iGPU but intel says otherwise. I haven't looked pass 4th generation. I would really like to buy such a CPU in the near future as my fx4350 is in dire need of a replacement.
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I would say dont get too hyped up seeing how intel have been going in term of cpu performance.


Rmb how skylake is suppose to be the leap after 2 gen jump from haswell? End up its disappointing.


Well you gotta understand that this has nothing to do with how intel CPUs "used" to increase performance. They're doing an entirely new strategy for architectural updates; and they're hitting the point where it's getting harder and harder to take advantage off the insanely small node sizes we're getting to.

There was a tour of an Nvidia factory that i watched on film recently and the head engineer that makes the dies themselves said that they literally had to order a new $250,000 electron microscope powerful enough to see individual ATOMS just to be able to competently work with 14nm chips!

There's a problem with CPU/GPU dies called "dark silicon", which limits the percentage of a chips transistors that can be turned on at once; and the smaller your node size the more dark silicon you have. In other words, 14nm has a quite large percentage of transistors that literally can't be used properly. This is why Intel is doing their new "optimize" step on top of their normal tick/tock schedule.

What this means is that if Intel could put all their resources into combating dark silicon while also increasing overclocking AND providing the typical ~5-10% IPC increase each generation gets: we could theoretically be looking at the largest increase in performance per generation in a decade! (For example: if we get 7% IPC increase, 6% higher overclocking, and can free up even as little as, say 7% of dark silicon; we would be looking at a grand total of roughly 20% performance increase over Skylake!
 
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post #183 of 221
These days the platform features are more of a selling point then the CPU... I'm on haswel so I don't have much m.2 support and ddr4. Might upgrade for that but x point mène-t-il is also around the corner. At the place I'll upgrade in 6 years lol
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....and they're hitting the point where it's getting harder and harder to take advantage off the insanely small node sizes we're getting to.

I agree. This is most likely one of the reasons why we are now seeing an upward trend in the pricing of CPU and GPUs. At least on the GPU side, the IHVs are still able to deliver meaningful generational performance gains even if the transitions to new process nodes are taking longer.
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Battlefield One seems to be running fine on stock i5 2500s... http://gamegpu.com/images/stories/Test_GPU/Action/Battlefield_1_Alpha/bf1_proz.png

 

Until you play Multiplayer....lol

I am just wondering how the 7700k competes stock for stock, against 4790K in Battlefield @ 4k.

 

 

I also am wondering if Zen will push Battlefield just as well as Kaby i5 - i7, but have 2 more cores to smooth out all the explosions & better able to handle the rest of the system load, while gaming.

 

Additionally, most don't review Battlefield in it's native form, just a single player bench. (which only gives you half the story)

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one user has benchmarked 7700k on http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-6700K/3647vs3502


9% IPC, pretty cool, but den again real world usage might be alot lesser.
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Until you play Multiplayer....lol
I am just wondering how the 7700k competes stock for stock, against 4790K in Battlefield @ 4k.


I also am wondering if Zen will push Battlefield just as well as Kaby i5 - i7, but have 2 more cores to smooth out all the explosions & better able to handle the rest of the system load, while gaming.

Additionally, most don't review Battlefield in it's native form, just a single player bench. (which only gives you half the story)

There are been no SP for BF1 lol.
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1. Geekbench should never be used as a benchmark, even for phones
2. 40% is complete lies, proly only 5-10% like usual.
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very nice, can't wait to do my new build. time to retire my 2500k
this may be true
    
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