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Yes psu is very suspect
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well, ill swap the psu and see. prob not today though
 
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while a PSU issue is possible, I seriously SERIOUSLY doubt it would block changing the reference bus to 101MHz


There have been a few small reports of windows updated microcode that effected overclocks.

This is why I asked about any recent updates.


Here is a weird thing to try perhaps.

If possible, set the reference bus to say, 98 or 99MHz, and see if it boots (if you have the option to underclock the reference bus)
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My windows 10 install is always up to date and it has not affected my i3@4.6GHz in the slightest. Most intances of borked up base overclock are due to incorrect timings. You need to set them all manually, even the obscure secondary and tertiary timings.
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Originally Posted by mattliston View Post

while a PSU issue is possible, I seriously SERIOUSLY doubt it would block changing the reference bus to 101MHz


There have been a few small reports of windows updated microcode that effected overclocks.

This is why I asked about any recent updates.


Here is a weird thing to try perhaps.

If possible, set the reference bus to say, 98 or 99MHz, and see if it boots (if you have the option to underclock the reference bus)

Great point. I also suspected the Windows update, that's why I unistalled the last update. Then installed the latest updates. Made no difference. I will try underclocking.
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My windows 10 install is always up to date and it has not affected my i3@4.6GHz in the slightest. Most intances of borked up base overclock are due to incorrect timings. You need to set them all manually, even the obscure secondary and tertiary timings.

I will also try manually setting the timings, but that wouldn't explain why it worked fine for a month then suddenly just stopped booting. It also wouldn't explain why, if i leave the BCLK at 100, I can overclock just the ram, and still boot fine.
How do I know what to set the secondary and other timings?
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Well, it boots fine with 99Mhz BCLK. But no joy with 90Mhz. I tried 90 with auto RAM clock (underclocked), and with the RAM at 2399Mhz, and neither would boot. Then I tried my old OC profile at 4.5Ghz and 23XXMhz RAM, but bumped it up to 1.45V VCore, because why not, and still nothing.

It did boot with 100Mhz BLCK and 2933Mhz RAM, but crashed over and over. I tried with RAM voltage up to 1.4, but it looks like I've corrupted my windows install in the process. So...it looks like I'll be doing a fresh install and go from there. Maybe that will fix all the issues.. fingers crossed..

Well it did boot and was running windows at 2933Mhz ram @ 1.4V, but not long enough to back up some files i want to grab before reinstalling windows. I set the bios back to default and it's working again. I'm gonna grab some files then reflash the BIOS and reinstall Windows 10 and see what happens

GETTING RANDOM REBOOTS IN WINDOWS AND IN THE BIOS WHILE I WAS TRYING TO RESET TO DEFAULT WHEN THE RAM WAS AT 2933.
I really want to try swapping the PSUs back.
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When learning to base clock overclock, you must familiarize yourself with how to tune timings. You can't leave them in auto because the board will set them too tight because it thinks that your RAM is running at a lower frequency than it actually is.

Finding the best timings is guesswork, and can take you many weeks of stability testing as you test each one. There is one way I devised to give you a shortcut. I wrote this short guide for someone overclocking a locked Phenom II. It's over 4 years old and was using DDR3, but the principle and steps are the same. Instead of AOD, you can use AIDA 64 Extreme to find your timings on the Motherboard/SPD tab.
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Ok this is the problem. Pretty simple fix really. Your RAM timings are set to auto. Every time you lower your RAM multiplier it attempts to automatically tighten timings, causing instability when RAM frequency is increased again via base clock. You need to keep all of your timings loose as if you were actually going for DDR3-1600 even though you set your RAM to 800, 1066, or whatever.

Now instead of playing the timing guessing game. the easy way to do this is to get all of your clocks back to stock, everything auto, restart, then set your RAM to the highest frequency that it will boot. Try 1600, if not then 1333. Restart. Now go into AMD Overdrive and pull up the timings page. Write all of these down, even the secondary and tertiary timings. Restart. Now manually set all of your timings to the numbers that you wrote down. If you are unsure of any, just leave it pretty loose for now. Restart. Now drop your RAM frequency back down to 800 or 1066 or whatever and get back to tuning your overclocks. Make sure you followed those instructions exactly including when to restart. See if that helps smile.gif
http://www.overclock.net/t/1460769/athlon-ii-x2-220-oc-help/30#post_22063160

Don't go over your rated RAM frequency for now.

I just happen to be doing this exact process this week as I changed my RAM configuration.
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I will try this. At this point I figure it has to either be RAM or PSU. First I want to run memtest to make sure the RAM is good
 
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Ok so I think the problem now is I just get random restarts all the time. It only runs 1-5 mins at a time. Doesn't matter if I boot windows or stay in the BIOS or am in MEMTest. The screen goes black and then it reboots. I bought a brand new Corsair CX550M. Same problem. I removed the graphics card completely. Reflashed the BIOS. Reinstalled windows. Disconnected all the hard drives and the CD drive and all cables except the power, HDMI, and USB for keyboard and mouse. I ran MemTest. No errors, but it won't finish a pass without rebooting. I took out 1 stick of RAM, then the other. I moved the RAM to different slots. Re-seated the RAM. Re-seated the RAM again. I plugged into a different power strip. I plugged directly into the wall. I tried a different power cable for the PSU. I tried a different HDMI cable, because, f**k, I can't think of anything else to try.
At this point, the memory timings are irrelevant. This is happening at stock everything. I've eliminated the PSU as the problem. At this point I guess it has to be the CPU or Motherboard. Both of which are only a few months old. Or, I think it could still be the RAM. I don't have another DDR4 system to test it with. I say that because, sometimes when I run Memtest, is shows 8gb of 2400 ram, and sometimes it says 8gb 1200 ram??? Also, It will not read the RAM SPD info. Idk if thats normal or not. Looks like this is MemTest86 v6.2.0.
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Cleared CMOS?

RMA motherboard first, then if still doesn't work, CPU.
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