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Does EK sell their EK-XLC Predator 140 separately without the cpu block?

Or any other pump rad combos out there?
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post #2 of 13
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Does EK sell their EK-XLC Predator 140 separately without the cpu block?

Or any other pump rad combos out there?

The Swiftech MCR140 - http://www.swiftech.com/MCR140-X.aspx

Swiftech uses a much better pump than EK, and also has a res so it is much easier to fill and bleed.
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Originally Posted by ciarlatano View Post

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Originally Posted by homestyle View Post

Does EK sell their EK-XLC Predator 140 separately without the cpu block?

Or any other pump rad combos out there?

The Swiftech MCR140 - http://www.swiftech.com/MCR140-X.aspx

Swiftech uses a much better pump than EK, and also has a res so it is much easier to fill and bleed.


They're both 6W PWM pumps, how is one "much better" than the other?

However, the Swiftech is a much better value than the Predator.
 
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post #4 of 13
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The Swiftech MCR140 - http://www.swiftech.com/MCR140-X.aspx

Swiftech uses a much better pump than EK, and also has a res so it is much easier to fill and bleed.

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Originally Posted by Radnad View Post

They're both 6W PWM pumps, how is one "much better" than the other?

However, the Swiftech is a much better value than the Predator.

They are the exact same pump a laring pump!!! Rebranded
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Originally Posted by ciarlatano View Post

The Swiftech MCR140 - http://www.swiftech.com/MCR140-X.aspx

Swiftech uses a much better pump than EK, and also has a res so it is much easier to fill and bleed.

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Originally Posted by Radnad View Post

They're both 6W PWM pumps, how is one "much better" than the other?

However, the Swiftech is a much better value than the Predator.

They are the exact same pump a laring pump!!! Rebranded

The EK Predator is actually using an SPC60 which is not a Laing pump afaik, but the specs are almost identical to the MCP30. Again, I could be totally wrong, but the specs are still close enough that one isn't "much better" than the other.
 
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post #6 of 13
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The EK Predator is actually using an SPC60 which is not a Laing pump afaik, but the specs are almost identical to the MCP30. Again, I could be totally wrong, but the specs are still close enough that one isn't "much better" than the other.

I may be wrong but I think if you dig deeper you will find that they are both laing pumps!! EK does not make pumps no one does they all use laing
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Originally Posted by Radnad View Post

The EK Predator is actually using an SPC60 which is not a Laing pump afaik, but the specs are almost identical to the MCP30. Again, I could be totally wrong, but the specs are still close enough that one isn't "much better" than the other.

I may be wrong but I think if you dig deeper you will find that they are both laing pumps!! EK does not make pumps no one does they all use laing

Could be, but the SPC60 is usually OEM branded as a Syscooling pump. I've never been able to find concrete proof that it is Laing. Maybe another expert will pop in and shed light, but either way, both pumps are about equal in performance.
 
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post #8 of 13
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Originally Posted by Radnad View Post

Could be, but the SPC60 is usually OEM branded as a Syscooling pump. I've never been able to find concrete proof that it is Laing. Maybe another expert will pop in and shed light, but either way, both pumps are about equal in performance.

You could be right just going off past experience so I could be wrong
post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by Radnad View Post

Could be, but the SPC60 is usually OEM branded as a Syscooling pump. I've never been able to find concrete proof that it is Laing. Maybe another expert will pop in and shed light, but either way, both pumps are about equal in performance.

You could be right just going off past experience so I could be wrong

OMG you made me go back and research, AGAIN, haha! (Can we ever research ENOUGH?) Here is a review saying its not a Laing, but I'm still not sure who makes it...

http://thermalbench.com/2016/06/30/ek-xtop-spc-60-inc-pump/
 
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post #10 of 13
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I may be wrong but I think if you dig deeper you will find that they are both laing pumps!! EK does not make pumps no one does they all use laing

Neither are Laing. The MCP30 is a Swiftech design and is built by them. No clue who makes the SPC60.

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Originally Posted by Radnad View Post

Could be, but the SPC60 is usually OEM branded as a Syscooling pump. I've never been able to find concrete proof that it is Laing. Maybe another expert will pop in and shed light, but either way, both pumps are about equal in performance.

No, they are not equal when it comes to expansion. The MCP30 has over 50% more flow and head pressure than the Predator pump. The Predtor is .6 gpm and ~1.2m head pressure, while the MCP30 has been measured at .9~1 gpm with 2m of head pressure. It won't matter in a CPU only system, but that is a large gap when you start adding GPU blocks.
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